KVR Audio

Jedinhopy · Post by **Jedinhopy** » Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:00 pm

FL Studio can't do this:

lotus2035 · Post by **lotus2035** » Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:06 pm

dalor · Post by **dalor** » Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:10 pm

AFAIK Impossible. It's not the DAW's issue, it's the MIDI specification. MIDI submits only absolute notes, any detune information would be pitch bend data, which each individual plugin/hardware synth handles differently and can't be unified. Some plugins don't even handle pitchbend data whatsoever. Also pitchbend data changes all notes within the same channel, not individual notes.

Fritze · Post by **Fritze** » Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:10 pm

griels · Post by **griels** » Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:11 pm

Unfortunately vanilla midi pitch bend isn't polyphonic, but I don't see why it shouldn't be supported by someone, where the user takes responsibility for mapping detuning data to a relevant MIDI CC... Looks a lot like a Stockhausen score

Jedinhopy · Post by **Jedinhopy** » Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:29 pm

dalor wrote:AFAIK Impossible. It's not the DAW's issue, it's the MIDI specification. MIDI submits only absolute notes.

I have grown tired of 12 notes per octave. Keytracking a selection of notes and finetuning individual notes is impossible.

dalor · Post by **dalor** » Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:29 pm

BTW it would be cool if MIDI would get a massive update to make things like this possible.
But imagine, every plugin to support this needs to be rewritten and updated.
It would take years to get back to a state where we are now. Bring it on I say

Bronto Scorpio · Post by **Bronto Scorpio** » Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:37 pm

This is exactly what VST3 will allow you to do

Sadly not many VSTs support it yet (Only some Steinberg VSTs afaik).
And Cubase 6 is the only host which supports it yet.

Cheers
Denns

Bronto Scorpio · Post by **Bronto Scorpio** » Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:42 pm

A video demo:

dalor · Post by **dalor** » Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:47 pm

Cool, I had no idea VST3 can do this! Thanks Bronto

Jedinhopy · Post by **Jedinhopy** » Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:49 pm

Bronto Scorpio wrote:This is exactly what VST3 will allow you to do
Sadly not many VSTs support it yet (Only some Steinberg VSTs afaik).
And Cubase 6 is the only host which supports it yet.

I wish Image Line mimics this and FL Studio is the easiest DAW to use.

mauseoleum · Post by **mauseoleum** » Mon Jan 02, 2012 12:37 pm

Jedinhopy wrote:I wish Image Line mimics this and FL Studio is the easiest DAW to use.

osiris · Post by **osiris** » Mon Jan 02, 2012 5:23 pm

I guess you could always stream to audio and run it through Newtone

Dionysos · Post by **Dionysos** » Mon Jan 02, 2012 9:09 pm

Jedinhopy wrote:I wish Image Line mimics this and FL Studio is the easiest DAW to use.

FL Studio has advanced per-note parameters and slide notes since years - for its native plugins at least.

So while FL Studio doesn't have the visual representation of what you show in the first post, it can do it.

Jedinhopy · Post by **Jedinhopy** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:34 am

Dionysos wrote:So while FL Studio doesn't have the visual representation of what you show in the first post, it can do it.

So i must duplicate the same vsti 16 times, all with the same preset. If i want 16 unique voices. Each with their own finetuning/detuning modulation/pitchbending.
Not a fast way to out of tune pitches.

I am looking for a new DAW which can detune pianoroll notes and drawing lines makes pitchbend