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Breeze wrote:
anterroir wrote:But before starting a take on violas/cellos and basses I'm thinking of changing the keyswitches in the Kontakt file to keys that aren't used by any of the stringed instruments so they are consistent and you would only need one keyswitch preset for all.
Thanks for sharing your work! It might be possible to use a second midi keyboard, merge it with your main, and transpose it so you can access the lower range of 0-128 which isn't usually assigned to anything. Something small like the Korg Nanokey or the AKAI LPK25 might do the trick, and sit conveniently on a desk. How many octaves do you need?
Oh - that ain't the problem. I was talking about the keyswitch mapping of the tvec script.

At the moment violins, violas, cellos and basses have different notes applied for keyswitches because the natural note playing range of the instruments conflicts with a usable standart mapping for all of them. The keyswitch for smooth is c#1/25 for violins and c#6/85 for violas. The idea is now to look for note ranges where there aren't any samples triggered and place the 21 articulation/divisi keyswitches on those keys in the kontakt patch - no problem if they are scattered, some starting midi note 0 up some from 100 - so in the end every instrument has the same keyswitches and then you only have to do one expression map that fits for all (and in that map you can assign cubase interna keys for triggering that are ordered - if you need it, I don't - as I trigger inside the key editor - thats what the map building is for)
When you do it this way you don't need to make 4 expression maps with 128 articulations entries each - which would save you big pile of works and food for an accountant monkey -> but people have to adjust their keyswitches in at least 6 of their Kontakt patches.

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Would it be possible to also make expression maps for Diamond Strings as well? I'd appreciate it VERY much, as I've grown accustomed to using them.


EDIT: I just realized that the mappings are pretty much identical in Diamond. WONDERFUL!

There is one thing that I noticed though: When I movie notes in the piano roll of Cubase, the sound of the note doesn't go off like in other instruments. In most cases the midi on message is played when clicking on or shifting a note so it is easier to make smaller changes.


EDIT: This IS wonderful :D. It's just that the duplets and triplets aren't in there. Oh well, almost everything is!. :D THANKS!





Something important. I've noticed that Diamond's been causing some ASIO issues, and I'm wondering if this script warning has anything to do with it: (Please ignore the second 2/3 of the image. The script warning in the bottom left it the main point.

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/1908 ... iamond.jpg

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Seem to have a problem with the piano in Diamond here, when loaded it has no velocity and seems to be way too small compared to the actual download size (About 20 meg if i remember right, sorry at work right now)

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synchronizer wrote:Would it be possible to also make expression maps for Diamond Strings as well? I'd appreciate it VERY much, as I've grown accustomed to using them.


EDIT: I just realized that the mappings are pretty much identical in Diamond. WONDERFUL!

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Finished the violas, cellos and basses. -> http://anterroir.com/misc/cs2_expressionmaps.zip

I don't have Diamond but as those are also TVECIII patches you can adapt mine easily.

The problem with duplets and triplets is that they are triggered on and off by the same key (same goes for divisi live ...) so you don't know whether it's on or off in the keyswitch lane + plus as there are only 4 groupslots they simply didn't fit in.
When you assign a controller to them you always know for certain if they are on or off and they are easily assignable with the note-expression feature.


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There seems to be a bug in the Kontakt script for the basses. When divisilive is turned on and you select half divisions + whole or half trillers you don't hear any sounds. Can someone else please check this out ?

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@ anterroir

Thank you for posting the Expressions Maps and screenshots- they will help people a lot.
:)
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use this font and color for tip title

if you want to share a tip, some of us have adopted this. seems like a good idea to continue with it for easy ID as a tip

e.g.
installation procedure

some people have been getting a error msg about missing samples. it turns out that during installation they used the extract to option of the unzip software instead of extract here

here are the installation instructions [with my addition]:
1. Create a new folder where you want your new library to reside. Name this folder anything you wish.

2. Download the files (including "bonus files" shown at the bottom of this page) into the new folder you created and then unzip them [using the "extract here" option].
if you use extract to instead of extract here, extra subfolders will be created leading to an error msg when you try to load an instrument

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gpunk wrote:Seem to have a problem with the piano in Diamond here, when loaded it has no velocity and seems to be way too small compared to the actual download size (About 20 meg if i remember right, sorry at work right now)
nobody else having this issue ?
just checking before i contact Kirk direct

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^^^^
~20 MB loaded here too, and no velocity layers.

On disk there there are 184 files, using 1.34GB.

My understanding is that it is using DFD mode (can't check at the moment) so only the initial part of each sample is loaded. IF so, you could switch the Sampler mode, if you wanted. s for velocity layers, I noticed that the samples folders are labelled "lite".
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gpunk wrote:
gpunk wrote:Seem to have a problem with the piano in Diamond here, when loaded it has no velocity and seems to be way too small compared to the actual download size (About 20 meg if i remember right, sorry at work right now)
nobody else having this issue ?
just checking before i contact Kirk direct
mmh, same here but I'm not sure is an issue. It is 20mb when loaded but dynamics work in the sense that there is volume changes in respect to velocity but not timbre as it should be (there is only one dynamic level sample for every note). With sustain depressed the right 'sustain' sample is triggered.

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Ugh I have the same problem. Please fix it as soon as you can. :)

EDIT: It seems that Kirk might have forgotten to put in a "non-lite" piano in the folder. If so, this could be rectified easily.

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synchronizer wrote:Ugh I have the same problem. Please fix it as soon as you can. :)

EDIT: It seems that Kirk might have forgotten to put in a "non-lite" piano in the folder. If so, this could be rectified easily.
Exactly why dio you consider that there is a problem? I don't think that there is any issue here.

My mentioning "lite" was to explain why I thought there were no velocity levels, not to indicate that a "non-lite" piano was missing.
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So there is no grand piano with multiple velocities? I guess I'll stick with the Komplete grands then. Oh well. Everything else is great.

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If Kirk doesn't chime in on this one i'll email him and find out if the piano is indeed single velocity, was hoping very much it would be as extensive as the rest of diamond (Which is amazing other than the piano, has to be said)

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I've tried the Diamond Cellos, and apparently when they are set to solo, I get random note dropouts when I play notes. I have no clue why, and it doesn't happen with other instruments either. Sigh I wish someone could gift me CSII.

Please get this fixed soon.

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I experienced this problem in CSII too..
It seems that round robin try to access samples that are not loaded in a specific dynamic range. I tried with smart legato on/off and with staccato and legato and still persist.
It seems only on basic samples although (smooth and adagio); if you have an accent on (or other articulations like pizzicato or tremolo), when it happens you can still hear the accent alone with no sustained note.
Trills in Diamond cello (solo and 3 players divisions) doesn't play at all but maybe this is how it's supposed to be (still didn't read the manual).

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