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FaX · Post by **FaX** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:59 am

Ok Bitwig you officially have my attention

S.HUSH · Post by **S.HUSH** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:38 am

FarleyCZ wrote:
S.HUSH wrote:Unless Live 9 comes around next week.
How do you all know that so sure? They announced it somehow? As I remember, this "Live 9 will come" situation was absolutely the same last year, year before ... ... On forum, they just release new 8.2 betas again and again. Didin't see any kind of Live 9 being even planed. (Please don't tell me I've been trolled. )

No you havent been trolled. You just have to read my post correctly. But i do have a friend who is an "insider" and he mentioned Live 9 will be the biggest release Ableton has ever done. Supposedly, and this is just rumor, it will feature a built in TR 909 and TB 303. Im crossing my fingers!

FarleyCZ · Post by **FarleyCZ** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 6:17 am

S.HUSH wrote:No you havent been trolled. You just have to read my post correctly. But i do have a friend who is an "insider" and he mentioned Live 9 will be the biggest release Ableton has ever done. Supposedly, and this is just rumor, it will feature a built in TR 909 and TB 303. Im crossing my fingers!

Waaaaaaait a moment. TR909? There are some drum machines in BitWig... Hmmm. How old is this intel, If I shall ask? Now it kind of seems like BitWig = Live 9...

Also do some of you know how to check if Ableton has a booth on NAMM? I heard it's possible to do on the site, but couldn't find it.

EDIT: Found it. Nnnnope, no sign of Ableton on NAMM. Now question is why. They could be:
- Fooling us with BitWig.
- Having Live 9 not ready anouncing it in few months later.
- Having still pretty buggy Live 8 and being (again) completely quiet about any Live 9 chances...

Hmmmm. What sounds more likely...

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 6:55 am

kx.001 wrote:I'm very interested in the Linux side of things. I wonder whether they'll have enough Beta testers on that side of things

9 out of 10 linux newbies are crushed like bugs by ubuntu, and drop out of
society altogether, raising turnips and kale in remote communes.
And STILL there are enough disillusioned windows zombies leaving Redmond, to fill
the tester ranks of the next dozen linux versions

I'ts almost sunrise

erickUO · Post by **erickUO** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:05 am

claes@vemberaudio wrote:
lalo wrote:Wow! Great Stuff!
being a Shortcircuit and Surge user now i really know why Claes was less active on those monsters recently!

congrats to Claes and the other people behind BitWig!

a.
hi lalo, thanks for for understanding.. actually there's some features developed for bitwig coming into surge soon!

cheers,
claes & the bitwigs

Can't wait

punkrockdude · Post by **punkrockdude** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:47 am

// Mod, delete this post, please.
// I posted before I read. Regards.

chokehold · Post by **chokehold** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:06 am

32/64 bit VST support. Use your beloved VST plug-ins.

No AU on Mac?

In case of a plug-in crash, a protective mechanism prevents the application from crashing and you from losing your work.

So every plugin instance is loaded into a wrapper? How does this affect performance?

luckystrike · Post by **luckystrike** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:16 am

I want to see how shrewd Ableton's layers are. 14 milion Euro earning company vs. small nerd copycat venture. I'm gonna bet on the former.

gpunk · Post by **gpunk** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:31 am

Ableton wouldn't have a leg to stand on unless these guys used Ableton owned tech (Why the f**k would they use any ? )
These Ableton posts are getting very very silly now, can we just let these guys get on with what they are doing please

spaceman · Post by **spaceman** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:56 am

I don't understand why they found it necessary to copy Ableton Live?
It's a bit sad really. They're obviously talented developers, so why not come up with some interface designs of your own?

Josmoker · Post by **Josmoker** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:09 am

Since Claes is on involved in this I will definitely need to check it out even though I never found any DAW that could drag me away from Cubase.
I'd still hope for further development of Surge and Shortcircuit, though.

spaceman · Post by **spaceman** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:16 am

They should step away from the Ableton Live paradigm and get Urs involved

gpunk · Post by **gpunk** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:42 am

Gotta admit to being a little lost here to be honest
So it uses clips triggerable into the arrange, is that what makes it a copy of Live ? (Like Sonars matrix or FLS new performance mode, are they trying to be live too ? )

Or is it the UI look itself because to me it looks as much like Live as it does Renoise or XT.

Or is it just that some of the guys coding it are ex Ableton and the Ableton users here are pissed ?

Please enlighten me.

I will say these guys have zero originality so far, i mean even the name itself Bitwig studio hehehe erm oh wait Ohm Studio and so on and so forth, but it is all about implementation in these cases, if this is coded well and integrated well, then it is worth a look.

audiobot202 · Post by **audiobot202** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:09 am

I believe that some of them were involved with Ableton, hence the similarity, I would assume. Unless Ableton have legally protected the workflow of their host or the style of knob, then I don't think there will be a problem.

luckystrike · Post by **luckystrike** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:50 am

Nobody would say it plagiarism if it didn't have perfect cloning of only one daw. Studio one developers didn't copy only one daw's essential of behavior or design of the UI but built their original UI and software behavior from the ground. It is a task that require ideas to mix things to one peice of working software w/o flaw. OTOH how about the BW. From particular daw they perfectly copied the UI design, UI structure, Instruments UI, Effects UI, and also how that interface behave when they work. No ideas required. Just required coding to copy existing software. It can't be fail in fundamental concept because the original of the concept is working w/o flaw in existing product.

Bitwig Studio announced