Low latency audio in Android 4 (Ice Cream Sandwich)

[UltraJv]

Touch is irrelevant.

What is the matter with you? Touch is hardly irrelevant to people posting on a tablet forum, just like plug-ins hardly is irrelevant to people posting at KVR in general. Apparently you can not tell an argument from preferences. That you prefer your netbook only tells something about you and not whether netbooks is better in general to all people at all times despite all thinkable differences. My answer to Sacha is not about my personal preferences, but whether you quite objectively seen can have a controller and an iDevice that still are as mobile as for instance a laptop or an iPad. The answer is that it is possible since a SynthStation25 and an iPod/Phone doesn't take up much more space than you can have in a suitcase.

Touch is old Ive had it for over 10 years, Even Apple are moving on from touch - they are copying Kinect :

http://www.reghardware.com/2012/01/16/a ... d_3d_tech/

Yes, youre right about my pref for Netbooks telling you something about me. It says that having had 6 or more "must have" gadgets over 10 years which are now gathering dust, I dont buy into the igadget fad. I prefer something practical, Im not led by marketing anymore unlike some. In short, im not the demographic igadgets are aimed at.

[polaris20]

Touch is irrelevant.

What is the matter with you? Touch is hardly irrelevant to people posting on a tablet forum, just like plug-ins hardly is irrelevant to people posting at KVR in general. Apparently you can not tell an argument from preferences. That you prefer your netbook only tells something about you and not whether netbooks is better in general to all people at all times despite all thinkable differences. My answer to Sacha is not about my personal preferences, but whether you quite objectively seen can have a controller and an iDevice that still are as mobile as for instance a laptop or an iPad. The answer is that it is possible since a SynthStation25 and an iPod/Phone doesn't take up much more space than you can have in a suitcase.

Touch is old Ive had it for over 10 years, Even Apple are moving on from touch - they are copying Kinect :

http://www.reghardware.com/2012/01/16/a ... d_3d_tech/

Yes, youre right about my pref for Netbooks telling you something about me. It says that having had 6 or more "must have" gadgets over 10 years which are now gathering dust, I dont buy into the igadget fad. I prefer something practical, Im not led by marketing anymore unlike some. In short, im not the demographic igadgets are aimed at.

Seeing as how netbooks are all but dead, it seems you still like fads.

[polaris20]

We're not talking about Ducatis or how to make a pan pizza here.

And you are only talking about how long your little polaris is. So, where is the difference? Even the reason for your off topic has been answared 9 pages ago. This is going nowhere here.

So stop posting if it bothers you so much. Sweet Jesus, the butt hurt is incredible. Is it that tough to just ignore a thread? I guess so.

[UltraJv]

Touch is irrelevant.

What is the matter with you? Touch is hardly irrelevant to people posting on a tablet forum, just like plug-ins hardly is irrelevant to people posting at KVR in general. Apparently you can not tell an argument from preferences. That you prefer your netbook only tells something about you and not whether netbooks is better in general to all people at all times despite all thinkable differences. My answer to Sacha is not about my personal preferences, but whether you quite objectively seen can have a controller and an iDevice that still are as mobile as for instance a laptop or an iPad. The answer is that it is possible since a SynthStation25 and an iPod/Phone doesn't take up much more space than you can have in a suitcase.

Touch is old Ive had it for over 10 years, Even Apple are moving on from touch - they are copying Kinect :

http://www.reghardware.com/2012/01/16/a ... d_3d_tech/

Yes, youre right about my pref for Netbooks telling you something about me. It says that having had 6 or more "must have" gadgets over 10 years which are now gathering dust, I dont buy into the igadget fad. I prefer something practical, Im not led by marketing anymore unlike some. In short, im not the demographic igadgets are aimed at.

Seeing as how netbooks are all but dead, it seems you still like fads.

My Netbook will load Linux, Windows, OSX - all the current OS. I have full vsti/AU compatibility with that and flexibilty - hows the ipad doing?

Lets not derail anymore huh

[polaris20]

Touch is irrelevant.

What is the matter with you? Touch is hardly irrelevant to people posting on a tablet forum, just like plug-ins hardly is irrelevant to people posting at KVR in general. Apparently you can not tell an argument from preferences. That you prefer your netbook only tells something about you and not whether netbooks is better in general to all people at all times despite all thinkable differences. My answer to Sacha is not about my personal preferences, but whether you quite objectively seen can have a controller and an iDevice that still are as mobile as for instance a laptop or an iPad. The answer is that it is possible since a SynthStation25 and an iPod/Phone doesn't take up much more space than you can have in a suitcase.

Touch is old Ive had it for over 10 years, Even Apple are moving on from touch - they are copying Kinect :

http://www.reghardware.com/2012/01/16/a ... d_3d_tech/

Yes, youre right about my pref for Netbooks telling you something about me. It says that having had 6 or more "must have" gadgets over 10 years which are now gathering dust, I dont buy into the igadget fad. I prefer something practical, Im not led by marketing anymore unlike some. In short, im not the demographic igadgets are aimed at.

Seeing as how netbooks are all but dead, it seems you still like fads.

My Netbook will load Linux, Windows, OSX - hows the ipad doing?

It really doesn't matter, because that's not what I use it for. I've got two Macs and several Linux machines at home. Silly UltraJv; still can't realize that there's a different purpose for everything.

[UltraJv]

Touch is irrelevant.

What is the matter with you? Touch is hardly irrelevant to people posting on a tablet forum, just like plug-ins hardly is irrelevant to people posting at KVR in general. Apparently you can not tell an argument from preferences. That you prefer your netbook only tells something about you and not whether netbooks is better in general to all people at all times despite all thinkable differences. My answer to Sacha is not about my personal preferences, but whether you quite objectively seen can have a controller and an iDevice that still are as mobile as for instance a laptop or an iPad. The answer is that it is possible since a SynthStation25 and an iPod/Phone doesn't take up much more space than you can have in a suitcase.

Touch is old Ive had it for over 10 years, Even Apple are moving on from touch - they are copying Kinect :

http://www.reghardware.com/2012/01/16/a ... d_3d_tech/

Yes, youre right about my pref for Netbooks telling you something about me. It says that having had 6 or more "must have" gadgets over 10 years which are now gathering dust, I dont buy into the igadget fad. I prefer something practical, Im not led by marketing anymore unlike some. In short, im not the demographic igadgets are aimed at.

Seeing as how netbooks are all but dead, it seems you still like fads.

My Netbook will load Linux, Windows, OSX - hows the ipad doing?

It really doesn't matter, because that's not what I use it for. I've got two Macs and several Linux machines at home. Silly UltraJv; still can't realize that there's a different purpose for everything.

I must correct you there. Ive always said that the market will support all formats, theres no clear winner for all purposes, despite marketing- some are just much more expensive for no good reason

[polaris20]

I must correct you there. Ive always said that the market will support all formats, theres no clear winner for all purposes, despite marketing- some are just much more expensive for no good reason

A netbook is $299-$399. A tablet is $399-$599 for a reasonable one. One is actually usable, the other is not. I've had three netbooks, two at work, one personal. They're shit for pretty much everything, even something as mundane as web browsing. To each their own, I guess. There's a reason why netbook sales have taken a giant dump, and Intel and MS are placing high hopes on tablets and ultrabooks. People (well, nearly everyone but you, I guess) bought netbooks because they were cheap, then realized they were utter crap.

[UltraJv]

I must correct you there. Ive always said that the market will support all formats, theres no clear winner for all purposes, despite marketing- some are just much more expensive for no good reason

A netbook is $299-$399. A tablet is $399-$599 for a reasonable one. One is actually usable, the other is not. I've had three netbooks, two at work, one personal. They're shit for pretty much everything, even something as mundane as web browsing. To each their own, I guess. There's a reason why netbook sales have taken a giant dump, and Intel and MS are placing high hopes on tablets and ultrabooks. People (well, nearly everyone but you, I guess) bought netbooks because they were cheap, then realized they were utter crap.

My Asus Aspire One Netbook was £200, Its the one I run Traktor/Massive and DAWs on, dont know what youre doing wrong. I know you need to justify the expense of the ipad, keep trying As for your assertions about Netbook sales, facts and figures on the net are fantasy. I can post several contradicting ones :

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/asuste ... 2011-12-05

Its clear that you like idevices, cool. Just no point in trying to make me like them. I did think about getting an ipad2 just to tell you how crap and locked down it is, I can afford one but dont see the point. I dont follow marketing like a sheep. I dont need marketing to tell me what I like, unlike some

I have an Android mobile, Samsung Nexus S, fairly cheap at £200, great fun. My phone and netbook together cost less than ipad. Just saying

[polaris20]

I must correct you there. Ive always said that the market will support all formats, theres no clear winner for all purposes, despite marketing- some are just much more expensive for no good reason

A netbook is $299-$399. A tablet is $399-$599 for a reasonable one. One is actually usable, the other is not. I've had three netbooks, two at work, one personal. They're shit for pretty much everything, even something as mundane as web browsing. To each their own, I guess. There's a reason why netbook sales have taken a giant dump, and Intel and MS are placing high hopes on tablets and ultrabooks. People (well, nearly everyone but you, I guess) bought netbooks because they were cheap, then realized they were utter crap.

My Asus Aspire One Netbook was £200, Its the one I run Traktor/Massive and DAWs on, dont know what youre doing wrong. I know you need to justify the expense of the ipad, keep trying As for your assertions about Netbook sales, facts and figures on the net are fantasy. I can post several contradicting ones :

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/asuste ... 2011-12-05

Its clear that you like idevices, cool. Just no point in trying to make me like them. I did think about getting an ipad2 just to tell you how crap and locked down it is, I can afford one but dont see the point. I dont follow marketing like a sheep. I dont need marketing to tell me what I like, unlike some

I have an Android mobile, Samsung Nexus S, fairly cheap at £200, great fun. My phone and netbook together cost less than ipad. Just saying

I'm not doing anything wrong; they're just grossly underpowered, tiny laptops with horrible screens and horrible keyboards. Also, I don't give a crap if you like iOS devices or not. I don't need to justify something I own and enjoy using on a daily basis. And since I unloaded my Asus netbook on eBay for only a small loss, I don't feel all that guilty about it, either.

I'm not really sure what marketing has to do with this thread or any discussion really, as it's irrelevant to music creation. You seem to think that people buy devices based solely on marketing, but in my case, as with others here, that's not true. Your continued use of it as a feeble straw-man argument is kinda old, as is your continued references to anyone being a fanboy. It doesn't do anything for the discussion of music creation on mobile devices.

Buying something just to "prove" something to someone on the Internet would be colossally retarded, and it wouldn't prove anything since this is all really subjective anyway. I've spent real time with netbooks, real time with Android devices, and real time with iOS devices. You won't be changing my viewpoint on anything really.

When you've actually spent considerable time with the things you criticize so much, as well as tone down the BS that's got nothing to do with this forum, perhaps I can take you a little bit more seriously.

Also, I guess different media reports on things differently.

http://www.electroiq.com/articles/sst/2 ... in-q3.html

Intel had better hope Windows 8 picks up for use on tablets, otherwise Atom sales will continue to circle the bowl.

The other poster is right; this is getting dumb. We don't agree, never will. I guess I'm done here.

[UltraJv]

I must correct you there. Ive always said that the market will support all formats, theres no clear winner for all purposes, despite marketing- some are just much more expensive for no good reason

A netbook is $299-$399. A tablet is $399-$599 for a reasonable one. One is actually usable, the other is not. I've had three netbooks, two at work, one personal. They're shit for pretty much everything, even something as mundane as web browsing. To each their own, I guess. There's a reason why netbook sales have taken a giant dump, and Intel and MS are placing high hopes on tablets and ultrabooks. People (well, nearly everyone but you, I guess) bought netbooks because they were cheap, then realized they were utter crap.

My Asus Aspire One Netbook was £200, Its the one I run Traktor/Massive and DAWs on, dont know what youre doing wrong. I know you need to justify the expense of the ipad, keep trying As for your assertions about Netbook sales, facts and figures on the net are fantasy. I can post several contradicting ones :

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/asuste ... 2011-12-05

Its clear that you like idevices, cool. Just no point in trying to make me like them. I did think about getting an ipad2 just to tell you how crap and locked down it is, I can afford one but dont see the point. I dont follow marketing like a sheep. I dont need marketing to tell me what I like, unlike some

I have an Android mobile, Samsung Nexus S, fairly cheap at £200, great fun. My phone and netbook together cost less than ipad. Just saying

I'm not doing anything wrong; they're just grossly underpowered, tiny laptops with horrible screens and horrible keyboards. Also, I don't give a crap if you like iOS devices or not. I don't need to justify something I own and enjoy using on a daily basis. And since I unloaded my Asus netbook on eBay for only a small loss, I don't feel all that guilty about it, either.

I'm not really sure what marketing has to do with this thread or any discussion really, as it's irrelevant to music creation. You seem to think that people buy devices based solely on marketing, but in my case, as with others here, that's not true. Your continued use of it as a feeble straw-man argument is kinda old, as is your continued references to anyone being a fanboy. It doesn't do anything for the discussion of music creation on mobile devices.

Buying something just to "prove" something to someone on the Internet would be colossally retarded, and it wouldn't prove anything since this is all really subjective anyway. I've spent real time with netbooks, real time with Android devices, and real time with iOS devices. You won't be changing my viewpoint on anything really.

When you've actually spent considerable time with the things you criticize so much, as well as tone down the BS that's got nothing to do with this forum, perhaps I can take you a little bit more seriously.

Also, I guess different media reports on things differently.

http://www.electroiq.com/articles/sst/2 ... in-q3.html

Intel had better hope Windows 8 picks up for use on tablets, otherwise Atom sales will continue to circle the bowl.

The other poster is right; this is getting dumb. We don't agree, never will. I guess I'm done here.

I did say pages ago that we are done here

[polaris20]

I must correct you there. Ive always said that the market will support all formats, theres no clear winner for all purposes, despite marketing- some are just much more expensive for no good reason

A netbook is $299-$399. A tablet is $399-$599 for a reasonable one. One is actually usable, the other is not. I've had three netbooks, two at work, one personal. They're shit for pretty much everything, even something as mundane as web browsing. To each their own, I guess. There's a reason why netbook sales have taken a giant dump, and Intel and MS are placing high hopes on tablets and ultrabooks. People (well, nearly everyone but you, I guess) bought netbooks because they were cheap, then realized they were utter crap.

My Asus Aspire One Netbook was £200, Its the one I run Traktor/Massive and DAWs on, dont know what youre doing wrong. I know you need to justify the expense of the ipad, keep trying As for your assertions about Netbook sales, facts and figures on the net are fantasy. I can post several contradicting ones :

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/asuste ... 2011-12-05

Its clear that you like idevices, cool. Just no point in trying to make me like them. I did think about getting an ipad2 just to tell you how crap and locked down it is, I can afford one but dont see the point. I dont follow marketing like a sheep. I dont need marketing to tell me what I like, unlike some

I have an Android mobile, Samsung Nexus S, fairly cheap at £200, great fun. My phone and netbook together cost less than ipad. Just saying

I'm not doing anything wrong; they're just grossly underpowered, tiny laptops with horrible screens and horrible keyboards. Also, I don't give a crap if you like iOS devices or not. I don't need to justify something I own and enjoy using on a daily basis. And since I unloaded my Asus netbook on eBay for only a small loss, I don't feel all that guilty about it, either.

I'm not really sure what marketing has to do with this thread or any discussion really, as it's irrelevant to music creation. You seem to think that people buy devices based solely on marketing, but in my case, as with others here, that's not true. Your continued use of it as a feeble straw-man argument is kinda old, as is your continued references to anyone being a fanboy. It doesn't do anything for the discussion of music creation on mobile devices.

Buying something just to "prove" something to someone on the Internet would be colossally retarded, and it wouldn't prove anything since this is all really subjective anyway. I've spent real time with netbooks, real time with Android devices, and real time with iOS devices. You won't be changing my viewpoint on anything really.

When you've actually spent considerable time with the things you criticize so much, as well as tone down the BS that's got nothing to do with this forum, perhaps I can take you a little bit more seriously.

Also, I guess different media reports on things differently.

http://www.electroiq.com/articles/sst/2 ... in-q3.html

Intel had better hope Windows 8 picks up for use on tablets, otherwise Atom sales will continue to circle the bowl.

The other poster is right; this is getting dumb. We don't agree, never will. I guess I'm done here.

I did say pages ago that we are done here

True, you did. Peace.

[IncarnateX]

Touch is old Ive had it for over 10 years :

And so what? No one said it was new. The point was that to people posting on this mobile forum, touch is relevant. You keep changing the premises of the discussion as if I had reponded to your Pc versus iDevice debate, but I have not. In all, your pc preference-statements are pretty useless on a mobile forum. However, your statements do raise the question why you keep posting on a mobile forum when you do not like touch screens? What a waste of space ...and your own time.

[UltraJv]

Touch is old Ive had it for over 10 years :

And so what? No one said it was new. The point was that to people posting on this mobile forum, touch is relevant. You keep changing the premises of the discussion as if I had reponded to your Pc versus iDevice debate, but I have not. In all, your pc preference-statements are pretty useless on a mobile forum. However, your statements do raise the question why you keep posting on a mobile forum when you do not like touch screens? What a waste of space ...and your own time.

I disagree, my Netbook is mobile - its the same size as ipad, it just runs a full OS instead of locked and crippled IOS and is 1/3 the price. Any other mistakes you care to make? It takes me seconds to respond to idiots, no time attall

[Sascha Franck]

It takes me seconds to respond to idiots, no time attall

And it shows. Your replies prove there's absolutely no afterthought. You don't even take your time to trim some quotes, to make this forum a better read. No, you just press "reply with quote" (for whatever completely unknown reasons - but well, at least you're not alone with that ignorant behaviour), type some stuff that you don't think about any further (admittedly, see above) and call it a day. You probably even expect folks to read the BS you type. Heck, perhaps you even expect them to think about it.
Talk about idiots, eh?
Btw, comparing your aging whatever-touchscreen-devices to any actual things proves that you have even less than just an idea. In addition, you're just plain wrong. Your netbook simply CAN'T do many things that touch-devices CAN. Accept it that some people DO WANT these things. You don't have to. You may hate the feel of whatever touch-device. But please keep telling people utterly stupid BS, such as that your netbook can do the same things. Because it simply can't.

- SF

[UltraJv]

It takes me seconds to respond to idiots, no time attall

And it shows. You're replies prove there's absolutely no afterthought.

Ah c'mon - its just a laugh innit? All these things are just toys, you dont take it seriously surely ?

these things arnt Moog Voyagers are they