KVR Audio

himalaya · Post by **himalaya** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:02 am

musikmachine wrote:It would be great to have a bank of classic drum machine sounds for quickly getting something going or build on.

In that case you might like this. I have a Roland CR78, Wersimatic WM24 and the Maestro Rythm King re-created in Tremor.

A few problems: certain sounds are closer than others, kicks and snare sounds were the easiest to do, followed by hats (but even these were a challenge, surprisingly), but any kind of metallic hits, maracas were very difficult. The pitch and timbre is off in many cases. For this reason, these are not 100% authentic emulations, think of them as offering a flavour of the original. Also, I couldn't fit all sounds into Tremor as it only has eight channels, and most of these old machines have many more sounds. Sometimes I could get two sounds in one channel by having each on a different velocity layer.

Here, have a listen:
http://www.electric-himalaya.com/stuff/ ... _Drums.mp3

BERFAB · Post by **BERFAB** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:24 am

himalaya wrote:
BERFAB wrote:
himalaya wrote: BERFAB,
Look up in the top right corner in Tremor. There is a row of 24 pattern memories. The very first eight should always have preset patterns, usually variations on the first one. Just click on them.
Thanks, H. I already spotted that. What I can't figure out is how to change the pattern set in those boxes. I know that they change when I hit a new preset, but the presets change EVERYTHING. Is there a way to just put in a new bank of patterns?

thanks
-B
Ahh I see. You can't load new patterns into those memories, as far as i know. It would be a good FR. A workaround is to load the preset with the pattern you want and then load a different kit, I suppose.

Seriously? This can't be done? The other FXpansion machines do this brilliantly. I'm quite surprised that this hasn't been implemented here.

It is a BEAT machine, after all. I would think you'd be able to load BEATS.

Shouldn't this be a no-brainer? Or am I living in Crazytown?

Cheers
-B

UncleAge · Post by **UncleAge** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:58 pm

How do you turn off individual engines? I see that if I reset all engines the CPU drops dramatically. However everything is lost in this process. So, is there a switch for each engine to turn it on and off just like the one(s) in the fx section?

audington · Post by **audington** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:05 pm

Is there any way of automating parameters in Tremor?

musikmachine · Post by **musikmachine** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:39 pm

himalaya wrote:
musikmachine wrote:It would be great to have a bank of classic drum machine sounds for quickly getting something going or build on.
In that case you might like this. I have a Roland CR78, Wersimatic WM24 and the Maestro Rythm King re-created in Tremor.

A few problems: certain sounds are closer than others, kicks and snare sounds were the easiest to do, followed by hats (but even these were a challenge, surprisingly), but any kind of metallic hits, maracas were very difficult. The pitch and timbre is off in many cases. For this reason, these are not 100% authentic emulations, think of them as offering a flavour of the original. Also, I couldn't fit all sounds into Tremor as it only has eight channels, and most of these old machines have many more sounds. Sometimes I could get two sounds in one channel by having each on a different velocity layer.

Here, have a listen:
http://www.electric-himalaya.com/stuff/ ... _Drums.mp3

Nice! I guess my definition of vintage is slightly different.

Yeah the 8 channels is limiting but the transmod makes up for that with some clever modulating.

musikmachine · Post by **musikmachine** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:40 pm

UncleAge wrote:How do you turn off individual engines? I see that if I reset all engines the CPU drops dramatically. However everything is lost in this process. So, is there a switch for each engine to turn it on and off just like the one(s) in the fx section?

I don't think you can but that would be a good feature to save on some cpu.

musikmachine · Post by **musikmachine** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:45 pm

audington wrote:Is there any way of automating parameters in Tremor?

Yeah host automation but it's limited to 32 parameters. There's also the graph and transmod system for modulating each synth engine.

audington · Post by **audington** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:20 pm

Thanks

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:59 pm

musikmachine wrote:
UncleAge wrote:How do you turn off individual engines? I see that if I reset all engines the CPU drops dramatically. However everything is lost in this process. So, is there a switch for each engine to turn it on and off just like the one(s) in the fx section?
I don't think you can but that would be a good feature to save on some cpu.

There is no such switch and it is really necessary given the high cpu use. Also for when one wants to use the sequencer to drive another plug-in you are still using all the cpu.

musikmachine · Post by **musikmachine** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:17 pm

I just checked and cpu does drop when i mute channels. It's 45% with 5 channels running and about 20% with just the kick soloed.

UncleAge · Post by **UncleAge** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:37 pm

pdxindy wrote:
musikmachine wrote:
UncleAge wrote:How do you turn off individual engines? I see that if I reset all engines the CPU drops dramatically. However everything is lost in this process. So, is there a switch for each engine to turn it on and off just like the one(s) in the fx section?
I don't think you can but that would be a good feature to save on some cpu.
There is no such switch and it is really necessary given the high cpu use. Also for when one wants to use the sequencer to drive another plug-in you are still using all the cpu.

...and driving a few other plugs is exactly what I had in mind. Being able to drive various other sound sources effectively really extends the usefulness of this plug.

FXpansion has always polished off their plugs with a few enhancements after launch. I'll keep an eye on their progress and see how/if they deal with this issue.

musikmachine · Post by **musikmachine** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:57 pm

Oops yeah i misread that. If the mute just muted the audio and not the midi that would make a big difference.

Yeah i'm giving it a good demo and i'm really impressed, it's amazing how much you can get out of a single voice using the modulations. Great plugin, loads of inspiration and really well thought out.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:58 pm

musikmachine wrote:I just checked and cpu does drop when i mute channels. It's 45% with 5 channels running and about 20% with just the kick soloed.

Unfortunately the midi is not sent out on a track when it is muted. So that does not help for driving other synths

musikmachine · Post by **musikmachine** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:22 pm

pdxindy wrote:
musikmachine wrote:I just checked and cpu does drop when i mute channels. It's 45% with 5 channels running and about 20% with just the kick soloed.
Unfortunately the midi is not sent out on a track when it is muted. So that does not help for driving other synths

I thought the sequencer would mute the midi and kit the audio but both mute the midi out.

himalaya · Post by **himalaya** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:46 pm

musikmachine wrote: Nice! I guess my definition of vintage is slightly different.

which is...?

Fxpansion have a NEW drum synth on the way!