KVR Audio

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:12 pm

aMUSEd wrote:That looks more interesting than the Arturia one to me

I agree. Multimode filter.. 3 oscs... FM... Cute. It's a good day for hardware.

PietW. · Post by **PietW.** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:43 pm

Where there is something analog? The boxes are much too small to do purely analog hardware.

Analog Hardware http://www.analog-monster.de/moogvcf.html

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:53 pm

PietW. wrote:Where there is something analog? The boxes are much too small to do purely analog hardware.

Analog Hardware http://www.analog-monster.de/moogvcf.html

Are you kidding? Sure the Pulse 2 will be analog like the old Pulse was. And in fact the case of the old Pulse was not much bigger. Same about other analog synths like Mopho, Tetra, MFB Synth 2, Doepfer Dark Energy etc.
The Mog Slim Phaty is quite small too compared to the keyboard version, same for the new Minitaur.

Picture of the Pulse 1:
http://www.amazona.de/media/articles/ar ... _Total.jpg

Ingo

PietW. · Post by **PietW.** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:09 pm

In the new pulses, such components are installed?
http://faq.waldorfian.info/pulse-inside.html

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:11 pm

EvilDragon wrote:Haters gonna hate.

trolls are gonna troll

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:14 pm

PietW. wrote:In the new pulses, such components are installed?
http://faq.waldorfian.info/pulse-inside.html

You see that the components in the old Pulse are not very big too. With a different layout and smaller components a smaller case should be no big problem.
Anyway i have not seen a real Pulse 2 so far (also from the inside) so i could not tell you how it looks inside. Anyway i am sure it will be a REAL analog synth.
Did you ever see the size of a DSI Tetra? That one is even polyphonic.

Ingo

JimmiG · Post by **JimmiG** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:41 pm

For sure it's analog. This is what a digital synth looks like inside:
http://midibox.org/forums/topic/10797-i ... omparison/

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:18 am

JimmiG wrote:For sure it's analog. This is what a digital synth looks like inside:
http://midibox.org/forums/topic/10797-i ... omparison/

Based on what the Blofeld is capable of the size of the components is really remarkable IMO.
The Virus TI needs two big Motorola DSPs while the Blofeld uses that tiny little DSP chip. In terms of REAL polyphony the Virus TI is not much better. With the TI desktop i had in some cases the polyphony was only around 10-12.

Ingo

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:35 am

Ingonator wrote:
JimmiG wrote:For sure it's analog. This is what a digital synth looks like inside:
http://midibox.org/forums/topic/10797-i ... omparison/
Based on what the Blofeld is capable of the size of the components is really remarkable IMO.
The Virus TI needs two big Motorola DSPs while the Blofeld uses that tiny little DSP chip. In terms of REAL polyphony the Virus TI is not much better. With the TI desktop i had in some cases the polyphony was only around 10-12.

Ingo

the virus is quite old now isnt it? technology advances quickly so its no suprise the components are getting smaller

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:56 am

Kriminal wrote:
Ingonator wrote:
JimmiG wrote:For sure it's analog. This is what a digital synth looks like inside:
http://midibox.org/forums/topic/10797-i ... omparison/
Based on what the Blofeld is capable of the size of the components is really remarkable IMO.
The Virus TI needs two big Motorola DSPs while the Blofeld uses that tiny little DSP chip. In terms of REAL polyphony the Virus TI is not much better. With the TI desktop i had in some cases the polyphony was only around 10-12.

Ingo
the virus is quite old now isnt it? technology advances quickly so its no suprise the components are getting smaller

The TI was finally available around beginning of 2006 and the Blofeld in 2007 (shown at NAMM in January 2007) so the time difference is not so big.
Anyway the TI uses more expensive components like the Motorola DSPs (and more knobs and that total integration stuff of course) but based on the size of both the components and the synth and also the price the Blofeld is really a powerful little synth.

Ingo

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:16 am

PietW. wrote:Where there is something analog? The boxes are much too small to do purely analog hardware.

You might want to actually check the size of SMT components. And dont forget that companies like CEM were putting full VCOs or VCF's in a single IC 20-plus years ago.

filter303 · Post by **filter303** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:15 am

I just got myself a pulse+ and now I found out that there is actually something even better coming out soon

I have massive GAS for P2 and Minibrute. I sure am glad that they don't cost more than this

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:17 am

aMUSEd wrote:That looks more interesting than the Arturia one to me

+1

v1o · Post by **v1o** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:48 am

Ingonator wrote:
JimmiG wrote:For sure it's analog. This is what a digital synth looks like inside:
http://midibox.org/forums/topic/10797-i ... omparison/
Based on what the Blofeld is capable of the size of the components is really remarkable IMO.
The Virus TI needs two big Motorola DSPs while the Blofeld uses that tiny little DSP chip. In terms of REAL polyphony the Virus TI is not much better. With the TI desktop i had in some cases the polyphony was only around 10-12.

Ingo

To be honest the TI has much more features which require more DSP.

v1o · Post by **v1o** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:53 am

Kriminal wrote:
Ingonator wrote:
JimmiG wrote:For sure it's analog. This is what a digital synth looks like inside:
http://midibox.org/forums/topic/10797-i ... omparison/
Based on what the Blofeld is capable of the size of the components is really remarkable IMO.
The Virus TI needs two big Motorola DSPs while the Blofeld uses that tiny little DSP chip. In terms of REAL polyphony the Virus TI is not much better. With the TI desktop i had in some cases the polyphony was only around 10-12.

Ingo
the virus is quite old now isnt it? technology advances quickly so its no suprise the components are getting smaller

No I think the Ti2 has newer and faster DSP chips than the Blofeld. It came out well after the Blofeld. Access keep the tech up to date with pretty regular updates to the software and newer hardware every few years.

Waldorf announces "Pulse 2" Analog monosynth (pictures from Musikmesse 2012 added)