Free VSTi Sampler : TX16Wx 0.9beta *update 11*

[elcallio]

Hi there,
TX16W looks promising. I fiddled around a bit with it yesterday (v. 1.005 ??)and came across an issue in REAPER. I tried to drag and drop wav files from the REAPER media explorer as well as from windows (xp) explorer. The files never got to TX16W but created new tracks in REAPER. So drag and drop does actually not work for me. Loading a whole bunch of samples from the "load file menu" is really hard work. So, did I do something wrong or is this a real issue?

BTW I like the look of old hardware and I absolutely like the idea of real sampling in my daw -> grab a microphone and bang the pan....

Greetz
PN

No, I doubt there are any issues there. I've done this myself, and the problem I think you might be having is that samples can only be dropped into either key mapper or sample editor, so if you drag them into any other area of the sampler UI, they will not be recognized, and host app will receive the drop instead.
(programs & performances must be dragged into resp. selectors as well).
I should probably make the whole UI receptable to at least wave drops. v2.
Cheers

[TheWhistler]

No, I doubt there are any issues there. I've done this myself, and the problem I think you might be having is that samples can only be dropped into either key mapper or sample editor, so if you drag them into any other area of the sampler UI, they will not be recognized, and host app will receive the drop instead.
(programs & performances must be dragged into resp. selectors as well).
I should probably make the whole UI receptable to at least wave drops. v2.
Cheers

That's it. Dropping it into the mapping area works. Thank's for your hint.

Greetz
PN

[korakios]

Can you add a "resample" feature?You know, recording what you play for speeding things up...And a time-stretch option for samples ,next to "tune", would be wonderful(cpu friendly,mainly for experimental effects)....
Thanks!

EDIT:Something weird is going on here...Every time I switch the filter from "allpass" to something else eg. "lowpass" Reaper seems to automute the track.The strange thing is that I can still open an older performance with no problem messing with filter settings.But if I create a new performance I can't use the filter...any ideas?
EDIT2.It seems to be sampling rate dependent.If I use 44100 it works .but if I go to 24000 Reaper automute the track...

[audiojunkie]

Can you add a "resample" feature?You know, recording what you play for speeding things up...And a time-stretch option for samples ,next to "tune", would be wonderful(cpu friendly,mainly for experimental effects)....
Thanks!

EDIT:Something weird is going on here...Every time I switch the filter from "allpass" to something else eg. "lowpass" Reaper seems to automute the track.The strange thing is that I can still open an older performance with no problem messing with filter settings.But if I create a new performance I can't use the filter...any ideas?

A resample feature would be pretty cool.

--Sean

[larsalt]

So, I finally had some more time to do some more testing. I created some patches with smaller samples myself, used some sountfonts and it looked good.

I had an issue after an upgrade that all programs I created in Cantabile caused the host to freeze. I only realized that later, but I think the vst had actually a different name in the host than before. I think that may have caused the issue (since cantabile was looking for a different name). I recreated the programs and it's working fine now.

One issue I'm still having is loading larger soundfonts. I thought initially it may be because the one tried was GM set with multiple banks. I really only wanted the Piano sound from the set (I used the free SGM General Midi soundfont). The error message said it couldn't be loaded, 'missing chunks'.

I exported the piano preset into a separate soundfont, and I I know try to load that soundfont, the sampler crashes the host program. The soundfont loads fine in other programs (shortcircuit, sfz).

Any ideas?

Thank you!

Lars

[elcallio]

One issue I'm still having is loading larger soundfonts. I thought initially it may be because the one tried was GM set with multiple banks. I really only wanted the Piano sound from the set (I used the free SGM General Midi soundfont). The error message said it couldn't be loaded, 'missing chunks'.

I exported the piano preset into a separate soundfont, and I I know try to load that soundfont, the sampler crashes the host program. The soundfont loads fine in other programs (shortcircuit, sfz).

Any ideas?

Thank you!

Lars

"missing chunks" is generated if any of the "stda", "pdta", "phdr", "pbag", "pmod", "pgen", "inst", "ibag", "imod", "igen" or "shdr" chunks are missing. Any of which should constitute an invalid Soundfont (according to spec). Can you send me the sound fonts?
/C

[Dean Aka Nekro]

Going to try this out when i can. The blogspot is bookmarked and thanks. Nothing more to add yet but hopefully when i have given this a try i shall be able to offer something useful. Also to keep upto date with things

Cheers /C

Dean

[larsalt]

"missing chunks" is generated if any of the "stda", "pdta", "phdr", "pbag", "pmod", "pgen", "inst", "ibag", "imod", "igen" or "shdr" chunks are missing. Any of which should constitute an invalid Soundfont (according to spec). Can you send me the sound fonts?
/C

The complete soundfont can be downloaded here:
www.geocities.jp/shansoundfont/


If I export just the piano preset and load just that, the software will crash completely without error.

I can send you just the piano preset later when I get home

[Z3R0T0N1N]

Is there any chance that at some point int he future a full TX16W import feature might be possible? The sounds load, which is amazing, and thank you -- but performance info doesn't, alas.
Unless we're doing it wrong...? always a possibility

[larsalt]

sorry, it took me a while.

but this is the piano soundfont that crashes the sampler:

http://www.mediafire.com/?974n4xbkhmirp9a

it works fine in other plug ins

[elcallio]

sorry, it took me a while.

but this is the piano soundfont that crashes the sampler:

http://www.mediafire.com/?974n4xbkhmirp9a

it works fine in other plug ins

The original (whole) font went away... No longer available But I've checked this piano font, and I can say what is the problem, but not why.

The samples in the sample header of the SF2 has invalid stereo link information (referencing wildly out of bounds, according to what scheme I cannot say). Since TX16Wx tries to create proper stereo samples when importing the SF2 this fails miserably.
My guess would be that most players ignore the stereo information, and just play the waves as mono pairs. And here I fear that the way I merge mono pairs normally might actually cause double zones. I will have to investigate further.
Cheers
/C[/b]

[korakios]

Just a small "up"...I didn't have "GUI" in Linux...lol....!

[present]

TX16Wx looks great. One question - does it use 'program changes'? These are essential for my live stuff. Thanks!

[elcallio]

TX16Wx looks great. One question - does it use 'program changes'? These are essential for my live stuff. Thanks!

Actually, it doesn't really. It responds to host performance changes, but not Midi. Should perhaps put that in. There is an issue though, and that is that TX16Wx allows you to have multiple programs on each midi channel. In the original hardware, program change switched the performance instead, thus basically going to a new "view" or "page" for the performance. (That's how we ran our gigs in the day).

So, either:
* Program change switches individual program slots, but then _all_ slots on the same channel would change to the designated program.
* Bank change switches performance

Or:

* Program change switches performance.

Note that there is one more caveat here, and that is that TX16Wx "compacts" the bank when removing material. I.e, if you have 16 programs loaded, remove number 10, then all the programs 11-16 will be reassigned a new index (moved down)
(Again, like the original!)

Let me know what you think, and I'll try implementing it asap.
Cheers

[elcallio]

sorry, it took me a while.

but this is the piano soundfont that crashes the sampler:

http://www.mediafire.com/?974n4xbkhmirp9a

it works fine in other plug ins

Version 1.0.06 should fix this, both crash and also do a fair import of the file. Although the amount of groups created is staggering. I have some thoughts on adding actual velocity layered samples in version 2, should be gold for these kinds of instruments.