Bitwig Studio announced

[Spitfire31]

These guys really have ZERO idea at all about marketing do they hahaha
This whole thing is becoming very boring and it looks like a release is further away than ever

Now that is finally a constructive and helpful post!:roll:

/Joachim

[miedex]

Its amazing how angst'y and uptight people are getting over Bitwig. If you have a problem with Bitwig then I suggest you get a box of bon-bons and a pint of Ben & Jerrys rocky road and have a good cry in your snuggie while watching General Hospital. I hear that Olivia is about to learn of Maggie and Stevens past.

[felonytrance]

Same here. Ableton likely will wait and see. Likely they will add what they can (code permitting) to Live 9 from BW which will nullify some of the uniqueness for me.

But I really like what I see with BWS and it probably has a place in my set up but I want to see what is in Live 9 (if it is out this year) as at best for now BWS would be an additional host for more creative uses here (replacing Project 5) not replacing anything else in my set up currently.

I would stay with live if they did a complete rewrite and got ride of all the bloated code. After maintaining a product for 10+ years they need to really dig into the software and fix the many problems and add all the features that users have been asking about for many years.

If ableton does this live will kill bitwig. I hope these products don't just follow each other. I hope they change into different products over the years. Otherwise it's going to boring and probably bad for BS.

[jupiter8]

I would stay with live if they did a complete rewrite and got ride of all the bloated code.

You don't write code for a living,do you ?

[Neon Breath]

Its amazing how angst'y and uptight people are getting over Bitwig. If you have a problem with Bitwig then I suggest you get a box of bon-bons and a pint of Ben & Jerrys rocky road and have a good cry in your snuggie while watching General Hospital. I hear that Olivia is about to learn of Maggie and Stevens past.

that totally made my day!!

[felonytrance]

I would stay with live if they did a complete rewrite and got ride of all the bloated code.

You don't write code for a living,do you ?

I understand how difficult this is, as i'm sure you understand that without a rewrite ableton has stated that they can not implement some of the most often requested features that BS has claimed will be available in their software. Yes there are max and other types of workaround but not that many people want to pay $300 for simple features.

Again I'm simply hoping that this will push both companies to really put out some amazing products in the future.

Also you've got to give the bitwig guys (got i hate that name!) credit that they were able to supposedly create a product from the ground up (assuming that they did not copy and paste) in three years.

Otherwise live is going to end up live FL. Really outdated code and having to create workarounds until finally they just kill the product and start over or move on

[gpunk]

Its amazing how angst'y and uptight people are getting over Bitwig.

I think you will find it isn't Bitwig, just a general annoyance at these companies need to try and hype their product before ever even having a product, lets not forget here that a bunch of us watched Jorgen post demo after demo of great features for XT 2 over the years it was taking to be developed, and then when it was released it was some half finished no feature pile off rubbish for want of a better word, and could not live up to it's own legacy left by its own previous version 1.4.

The hype these companies try to generate just negates any good work they have done by raising an expectation of the general dumb populous, it will always backlash and as much as i have said over and over, lets just let them release the thing before saying it is this that or the other, Bitwig themselves should not chat this that and the other about it either.

In this particular case (Bitwig) where already having a lot of people thinking capital investment scam, the fact that they have released this hyped info just before a big show (Investors) does not down play that at all (I am one of the people who have always said "No way it's a scam" and i am 100% certain still it isn't) but they should just get on with releasing this thing instead of trying to generate hype.

[miedex]

Its amazing how angst'y and uptight people are getting over Bitwig.

I think you will find it isn't Bitwig, just a general annoyance at these companies need to try and hype their product before ever even having a product, lets not forget here that a bunch of us watched Jorgen post demo after demo of great features for XT 2 over the years it was taking to be developed, and then when it was released it was some half finished no feature pile off rubbish for want of a better word, and could not live up to it's own legacy left by its own previous version 1.4.

The hype these companies try to generate just negates any good work they have done by raising an expectation of the general dumb populous, it will always backlash and as much as i have said over and over, lets just let them release the thing before saying it is this that or the other, Bitwig themselves should not chat this that and the other about it either.

In this particular case (Bitwig) where already having a lot of people thinking capital investment scam, the fact that they have released this hyped info just before a big show (Investors) does not down play that at all (I am one of the people who have always said "No way it's a scam" and i am 100% certain still it isn't) but they should just get on with releasing this thing instead of trying to generate hype.

These music software companies are made up of grown adults who can dress themselves and brush their own teeth and can pretty much do what they want with their own websites and press releases and if we are grown adults then we ought to act mature about it and not treat this like a nervous spectator sport. Looks like Bitwig know what they want and they are going for it and that is a good example of how to live life. I will respect them unless they start making fun of Rachel Ray Cookware or Ray Liotta or Ray Ban sunglasses or Ray J.

[headquest]

Partly agree with both those points of view...

However, one thing I personally wonder whether they will regret making a premature press release at a time when they clearly don't have staff in place to answer the emails and other enquiries generated by the interest they have created...

Some people may well conclude they are not professional simply because of unanswered emails, enquiries, etc.

[spaceman]

These guys really have ZERO idea at all about marketing do they hahaha
This whole thing is becoming very boring and it looks like a release is further away than ever

Now that is finally a constructive and helpful post!:roll:

/Joachim

How dare they postpone a product that didn't have a release date!

[spaceman]

Partly agree with both those points of view...

However, one thing I personally wonder whether they will regret making a premature press release at a time when they clearly don't have staff in place to answer the emails and other enquiries generated by the interest they have created...

Some people may well conclude they are not professional simply because of unanswered emails, enquiries, etc.

Can you imagine the questions though?

"will it have X feature like Live has but skinnable?"
"can you make it so that I can only enter the notes C,D and F?"
"can it import Reaper projects, as my other host is Reaper?"
"will it be able to save audio files as midi, because my email is too slow"

[Sascha Franck]

I don't understand all this.
To me it seems as if there is a pretty much experienced team of developers behind Bitwig. Whether the outcome will be great, will be like Live, will rule the world - nobody obviously knows so far.
Anyway, it's not even a month ago since they announced it (which IMO is pretty much in time to create some interest and nothing like "it's overdue and needs to be released NOW!") and people are already complaining about the lack of support? Is your sequencing world depending on the release of Bitwig all of a sudden?
I don't get it.

- SF

[steffensen]

I spose this is fake then?

http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/3094/invitew.png

[spaceman]

Is your sequencing world depending on the release of Bitwig all of a sudden?
I don't get it.

How could people possibly make music without Bitwig studio!

[VariKusBrainZ]

what a bunch of losers....you know who you are

@Bitwig - I hope this product is a huge success, Ill certainly be demoing it when it comes out, been waiting along time since the original announcement!