KVR Audio

camsr · Post by **camsr** » Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:49 pm

MIX knob is for transient retention, as this thing sucks them right out. Drum loops for example.

The meters could use 6db marks for a little more accurate visual feedback.

And yeah, keyboard focus is just for us FL users.

It's really not critical.

Lookahead might fix your low to high level transient problem. Or a specific attack envelope.

Good luck.

Svama · Post by **Svama** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:50 am

Hi Vojtech,

there is one feature I really miss in your plugin!
Waves Vocal Rider writes his own volume automation track inside the DAW, which I could tune everytime I like. This is not possible with yours, but could solve many problems, like the peaks from other users. This would also be an optical help, what happens behind the hood!

Think about this feature implemantation.

Thanks and greetings

Marek

dickiefunk · Post by **dickiefunk** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:51 am

MeldaProduction wrote:It will be available separately as usual

Great! Look forward to its release!!

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:44 am

keel wrote: FYI, this happens on your all plugins. I can't even click back to the wrapper settings. Only way is, to quit FL, load empty project, load up your plugin and go to the wrapper settings and untick that "dont allow keyboard shortcut" thing.

Once, I asked you to fix your plugins to not steal space, but you said something like "I wont". This is too bad, cause if plugin steal space in FL = no buy from me. I wish every developers would be like fabfilters.. I asked them to fix their plugins, and they did..

Sorry ot and sorry for my bad english..

As far as I remember it just didn't work for some reason. Well, VST standard is a little bit tricky in this. Anyway some controls just benefit from the spacebar, so it's a no go to remove it. I'll check that "dont allow ..." thing anyway...

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:44 am

Rathead wrote:
highkoo wrote:Yep, this thing is going to print you money.
Whatever you were going to charge- Double it.
<snip>
Have you taken leave of your senses, Sir!

Let us get a good intro deal first, THEN double the price!

Hehe

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:51 am

camsr wrote:MIX knob is for transient retention, as this thing sucks them right out. Drum loops for example.

I don't understand this really - what the MIX knob should do? The dry/wet is basically sensitivity. Anyway I think it is very unusable for drums. It's more like for stable instruments - vocals, sax, violin...

camsr wrote: The meters could use 6db marks for a little more accurate visual feedback.

Hmmm ok, I'll check.

camsr wrote: And yeah, keyboard focus is just for us FL users. It's really not critical.

camsr wrote: Lookahead might fix your low to high level transient problem. Or a specific attack envelope.

Theoretically, we'll see

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MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:52 am

Svama wrote:Hi Vojtech,

there is one feature I really miss in your plugin!
Waves Vocal Rider writes his own volume automation track inside the DAW, which I could tune everytime I like. This is not possible with yours, but could solve many problems, like the peaks from other users. This would also be an optical help, what happens behind the hood!

Think about this feature implemantation.

Thanks and greetings

Marek

Ok, added to to-do list

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mabian · Post by **mabian** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:30 pm

Ugh it seems this is going to be a tough fight...

http://varietyofsound.wordpress.com/201 ... lseekerla/

- Mario

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:05 pm

I hope not

mabian · Post by **mabian** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:07 pm

Classy!

- Mario

Svama · Post by **Svama** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 6:33 am

Hi Vojtech,

what do you think about Seeed-parameter in milliseconds instead of percent or maybe the user can switch it in the settings?!

Greetings

Marek

paterpeter · Post by **paterpeter** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:22 am

Svama wrote: what do you think about Seeed-parameter in milliseconds instead of percent or maybe the user can switch it in the settings?!

Seeed? Awesome band! SCNR

But you're right, of course. A millisecond scale could be helpful.

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:05 am

I'd rather keep the speed like this. The reason is that the range is a little "weird"

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SuperFly76 · Post by **SuperFly76** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:23 am

OK, i'm back home now and will download and test this out tonight. Looking forward to putting this through it's paces.

SuperFly76 · Post by **SuperFly76** » Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:23 am

I've had a test with this plugin this morning and want to share my impressions and suggestions.

Firstly, I really like this plugin. When waves vocal rider first came out I was really interested. Almost bought it but the side chain feature didn't work with Samplitude, my host of choice. Research led me to Bluecat's Digital Peak Meter Pro, which can output an envelope based on the peak and RMS vales of the meter. The plugin has controls for the curves amount, offset, average between Peak and RMS, and can also invert the curve. The curve can be written as automation data. I've been using this as a volume rider ever since. I can actually get much better results with 2 instances (one to level vocal, other to float the vocal on the music), than I could get with waves vocal rider. The only problem with this is that it's not instant. I have to make an adjustment, write the automation, then listen back.

Your plugin seems to do this well! And, the sidechain input works with Samplitude, unlike the waves one. I still miss the amount of control I get with Bluecat's Digital Peak Meter pro. I like it though. I'm sold. Will be picking this one up as soon as it's available.

I'd like to share a few suggestions.

Write Automation Curve - Like other's suggested, I'd like to be able to write the curve so that I can edit it in my host.

Breath Sensitivity - I've noticed that this will respond the same way to everything including breaths. It would be great to have a circuit and control over how it responds to breaths, so that it wouldn't turn them up. It doesn't need to be a deesser per se, but rather just not respond to breaths.

Cleaner UI - When I first launched the program, I saw the sidechain button on the advanced tab. I also saw the background sensitivity slider at the bottom and then assumed that all of those controls were only for the sidechain. I'd suggest making an additional section pertaining to the sidechain part of the circuit. This also leads me to my next suggestion:

Balance between sidechain and main input - I'd like to have a slider that would control the balance of the main signal as it pertains to the sidechain signal. As it is, if I set all my general settings with sidechain off and then turn it on, there is a drastic volume drop. I know that there is the general output gain, however, I'd still like another slider that just changes the gain relationship to the sidechain input. This way I can A/B the sound with and without the sidechain and not have a massive volume drop. Also, it seems to me that the output gain has an effect on how the circuit responds, maybe I'm wrong there? Anyway, I'd still like it.

A few minor quibbles: Sensitivity should default to 50%. It's much too strong when the plugin first launches at %100. It sounds like a compressor set way too extreme to me. Also the speed in percentage? What is it in percentage to? That seems really weird to me. I still can't really figure out what's slower and faster. I would prefer it in a measurement that actually relates to speed. Just labeling it slow at one end and fast at the other end would do it for me.

Vojtech, You've got a great plugin here. I really like the way it's sounding. You can count me in for a purchase, even if none of my suggestions are added. Thanks for this!

MAutoVolume beta available - need opinions! :)