Ozone yea or nay?

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lightsfadelow wrote:
MickGael wrote:
lightsfadelow wrote:That's $3,000 worth of outboard gear that is only in the most vague way related to Ozone. I'm sure it's very nice... but did you join this thread just to make us jealous that you have more money than we do? ;-)

How well you know me...

If you read what I said, I used to use Ozone.

The point seems pretty simple to me: upgrading my chain largely removed my need to use Ozone. What I was trying to share is the direct observation that premium hardware has made a bigger improvement to my mixes than any plugin I own.

And for the record, why do you assume I make more money than you (or anyone here)? I saved for 2 years to make the purchases.
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Just to bring the thread back to the OP:

My only point was to note (as a former Ozone user) that when I improved my chain (and approached the way I use a DAW) I found less of a need to turn to Ozone to improve things.

No disrespect meant for any Ozone lovers! :D
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alexfalcao wrote:One thing that keeps me holding to upgrade to Ozone 5 from Ozone 4 is the Interface, it's huge. I use it on Sound Forge 9 and I can not even see all controls.
I didn't realize it had grown that much. I guess you're right. My two monitors aren't enough as it is... :cry:
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+1 to Ozone 5 being a big leapfrogging-over-the-competition step above Ozone 4. So anybody who is basing their judgment of any of the modules on Ozone 4 needs to grab the 5 demo and reevaluate.

+1 to it's really big. But when I look at the UI I'm hard-pressed to think of a way to fit it all in and make it smaller. As it is, with the EQ, I'm regularly expanding and collapsing the pane that allows me to access the EQ features and show a taller spectrum view.

The good news is that it's not too big to fit on one screen. I use my 2 screens in portrait mode so that my speakers are in a perfect equalateral triangle. (When I had them landscape, the speakers were way too wide to get a useful stereo image.) But some plugins I own (Geist and SynthMaster) are too big to fit on one screen width-wise. So it could be worse ;)

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ok,
i have gone back to my mixing secrets for the home studio book and it is telling me that i am thinking of mastering in the wrong way perhaps - i want something that will improve the listen-ability of my tracks obviously - i thought that EQ and compression could be used to sweeten guitar or add punch to bass, but what i am reading is that i should be using those tools to carve away bad parts rather than enhance already recorded tracks..

so, maybe you could check out one or two of my latest tracks and tell me if i need more mastering tools and which ones? i use Cubase 6, so i have some of these tools already.. do i want an expander? maybe i would not need the full Fabfilter bundle, but rather one or two of those plugs? same for ozone?

thanks for the advice so far.. i have been thinking about life in a more serious light lately and trying to take what i do musically more seriously.. also i have some inheritance money...

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I'm on my mobile with no earbuds so I can't listen to your mix but a few impressions:

1. I read that book too. I didn't take away from it what you did.

2. Yes you should be finding a place in the mix for each part by leveraging frequency (EQ) depth (volume, short delays, and reverb), and width (stereo placement). This is in the mix itself.

3. The book dealt 100% with mixing no time was spent on the mastering process. There was a little talk of applying light compression on the master channel for some music types. But te assumption. Is that you take your mix to a mastering engineer when you're done. If you want to self-master you need a book on mastering.

4. You should always endeavor to fix problems in the mix first.

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tried ozone 5...yay

:-)

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Ozone 5 is the best Native vst plugin out here i've tried imo, ymmv. The best sounding, most versatile and most surgical combo processor plugin i've tried on any platform i've used. Love it! She's a beast (Especially the Advanced version. But both versions offer the best bang for the buck i've seen out here for Mastering tools. low price but high quality and high flexibility is what you get.). Truly in a class of its own, love the Ozone concept and platform. Count me in the yay crowd.

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T2 Icarus is a must. SonicCore SCOPE is the most. As heart of studio it has my vote, cause XITE-1 is all she wrote.

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How do you(pl) use ozone most?
..what goes around comes around..

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+1 to Ozone 5 being a big leapfrogging-over-the-competition step above Ozone 4.
How much iZotope marketing kool-aid have you guys been drinking? :)

I'm a longtime Ozone user, going back almost to its introduction. But I tried the O5 demo and decided to pass on it. I reached that decision after much testing and experimentation, substituting it for O4 on multiple projects, eventually concluding that the difference was marginal-to-imagined and not worth the added CPU cost.

To suggest that Ozone 4 is somehow deficient is nuts. I've been using the limiter du jour, FabFilter Pro-L, for a few months now. And I'm loving it, but I gotta say that even though it slightly beats out Ozone 4 it takes much more tweaking to best what Ozone 4 does so effortlessly.

To return to the original question, I'll add one more big yea. I might not agree that O5 is a revolutionary step forward, but I'm still a fan of the product.[/quote]

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T2 Icarus is a must. SonicCore SCOPE is the most. As heart of studio it has my vote, cause XITE-1 is all she wrote.

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ouroboros wrote:How do you(pl) use ozone most?
Not really any special way of using it. I use it while mixing and composing like any other plugins. It is'nt just a mastering tool but a killer Mixing/Composing/etc tool as well.

It covers alot due to its many modules so i tend to reach for it more then other plugins. It's convenient having most of what i need in one plugin that's very flexible.
I've only had Ozone 5 for about a month so its not the most heaviest use yet but i tend to prefer it over others.
It's a tool that can be used in any situation, very universal, great concept that fits me.
T2 Icarus is a must. SonicCore SCOPE is the most. As heart of studio it has my vote, cause XITE-1 is all she wrote.

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Ozone 5 is great.

but somehow I have problems with Ozone 5 and Nebula

it crashes Cubase !! not everytime but sometimes when you dont be aware of it.

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