Help me understand Fruity Loops

[smart]

Hey,

Thanks, I never realized it would highlight, sweet

[bluedad]

one reason I get pissed off at fl studio, is that the last few times I've begun something, when I come back to open the tune and work on it - it gets hung up looking for something and won't open again!
this has happened using only native plugs as well.
and I have posted at loop talk..

What does it look for ? if samples , they have changed, but you can dl the old 3.5 ones on the fl site. also when it's stuck "looking for" you can press esc to abandon.

Also for major updates this is generally recommanded to keep your old version working (doesn't interfer with new install) if you still have songs in progress.

It's only a handful of times this has happened, but then again, that's about how often I've tried it. Let's see, one time it was looking for dr008; another time I was only using native plug-ins, no samples, and this last time it hung up looking for the 2 Warp Delay.
I'm going to give it another shot sometime, too many of y'all swear by it for me to just write it off.

[thockin]

I haven't been able to isolate it either, and I have TRIED HARD.

[AD80]

What things about FL are you digging at the moment?

-Shane

Too many to name probably. It just has a lot of smart and useful features built in almost everywhere I look. I havent got around to trying the audio stuff yet. But I use Tracktion as my main host anyways so audio is not a concern for me.

[Tempest]

I have a better workflow for you (Smart) - keep the parameter list open in the browser. The last tweaked parameter - will be automatically highlited.

Hey Mirabebe. I've always meant to ask this on the FL forums but never have since it's probably been discussed and I did't feel like searching for the thread....

How come the browser window closes everytime after I assign a parameter? It's sooo annoying to have to reopen the window everytime. It used to be much worse without the highlight function. Every time I would finally find the filter cut and a VST it would close, and then I would have to go back up, reopen, and then scroll search for the "Q"

[j.ho]

the strength of FLS , imo , is the piano roll ... easy to use , record to , and edit ...

Is there a list of keyboard shortcuts for the piano roll? For instants, a shortcut for switching between the editing tools, etc etc.

Thanks! I've been messing with FL a few days and I like the sequencer thus far and it rewires into my fav programs.

[krumelur]

he he ok so everyone here (including me I hope) that has got all these people to get into FL should have a free copy?!

[bluedad]

he he ok so everyone here (including me I hope) that has got all these people to get into FL should have a free copy?!

why, don't you have it already?

[TeeLangSun]

and now I notice a lot of other companies are copying parts of FLS user interface (I won't mention any specific names)..

You mean like Cakewalk Project 5's new Browser window? It's definately looking exactly like the one in FL.

[TeeLangSun]

I'm going to give it another shot sometime, too many of y'all swear by it for me to just write it off.

I find FL to be much stronger on details than any of it's competition. A lot of the little things that make working easier and faster are grossly missing from the competition. FL has lots of shortcuts which is good. If you like it's ways of sequencing, then it's certainly got the tools to get the job done. Things also work as advertised as far as I have experienced.

Where it falls down for me is in it's recording timing. When recording live from my midi keyboard, FL always records early and the length of the notes is always somewhat shorter than what I'd recorded. I have to go back and edit each and every single note after recording in the piano roll. That and the lack of loop recording are the two major drawbacks to using FL for me. Those are the two main reasons why I still find a need to keep going back to Orion. I used FL for the entirety of 2003 and I almost forgot how refreshing it was to just play my midi keyboard with my loose timing and have it play back exactly precisely as I recorded it and I could move on to something else rather than having to go into the piano roll and fix it. Someone told me beforehand that this latest release of FL might have addressed this issue but I can't see that it has and there's nothing about it in the "what's new" text.

Smaller issues I have with it are like mentioned above, no proper search function for missing files.

I don't really care about the audio recording aspect, but if I did, then I'd say it was very messy to use. Same for rewire having no control on the client side.

There are other quirks like switching on/off the scrolling playlist/piano roll. Unlike one might expect, you can't simply hit a shortcut key to toggle it on/off at will, you have to go into the setting menu and turn it on and off there.

[digitalstasis]

Where it falls down for me is in it's recording timing. When recording live from my midi keyboard, FL always records early and the length of the notes is always somewhat shorter than what I'd recorded. I have to go back and edit each and every single note after recording in the piano roll.

mp3 stereo

http://singletown.free.fr/mp3/left%20ri ... xemple.mp3

left= audio recorded from me playing live loosy keyboard
right= midi replaying of the file in FL

result: no differencies.

[Mirabebe]

TLS:

I left you 3 PMs as well as sent you an email about this same problem you are describing.

In FL 4.5.2 there's a new switch in Audio Settings called "use mixer position".

Try recordng with it - let me know if it helps.

[fleetmouse]

Where it falls down for me is in it's recording timing. When recording live from my midi keyboard, FL always records early and the length of the notes is always somewhat shorter than what I'd recorded. I have to go back and edit each and every single note after recording in the piano roll.

When you say midi keyboard, do you mean that the keyboard is the sound source for the notes (i.e., with midi thru enabled?) I think the problem could be that there's no direct monitoring option in FL so it adds latency to the audio and tricks one into hitting notes early to compensate.

I just tried it in FL, got the results you describe, then in Cubase with and without direct monitoring and it made a big difference (m-audio audiophile, 256 buffer size = 5-6 ms latency)

Or maybe I'm just suggestible!

edited to add: I tried unmuting my audio in instead of running it through the FL mixer - this makes up for the lack of direct monitoring - and ticked "use mixer as playback position", and it seems to work.

Now if I could only figure out why I get crackles in FL when sweeping the cuttoff in Reaktor Junatik! Doesn't seem to be the volume level or buffer settings (I don't get this with Reaktor standalone or in Cubase...)

[Mirabebe]

I would like to hear you define "direct monitoring".

[fleetmouse]

I would like to hear you define "direct monitoring".

The input signal comes right back out of the card (into your headphones or whatever) instead of being routed through the signal path of the host software. I think you can only do it with ASIO hardware.