KVR Audio

Neon Breath · Post by **Neon Breath** » Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:17 pm

Ok thanks. I really don't get why VST3 only. They really don't want our money?? Too bad for them

Chad@PA · Post by **Chad@PA** » Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:23 pm

The waveform portion of the UI reminds me of the Max4Live Granulator that Robert Henke (monolake) made. Especially how it scans through the waveform, grain windows, etc.

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:32 pm

whet wrote:Ok the price is a suprise. Would have thought its around 200 euro o0. Seems like Steinberg rethought their pricing structure.

Yes. I would have liked to carry this in my shop but I honestly think this new structure will make PadShop a much bigger hit than if it was to sell for $199 in stores.

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:35 pm

Neon Breath wrote:Ok thanks. I really don't get why VST3 only. They really don't want our money?? Too bad for them

Cubase is the most installed sequencer in the world so it's not too bad of a move. Also, Steinberg needs to push the VST3 platform more than they need to sell PadShop.

budweiser · Post by **budweiser** » Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:00 pm

What really amazed me is the table you can see on the left at 1'55 !! If it's bundled with the synth, i'll buy it as soon as it will be out. Sounds really great, but it reminds me about skanner, which is free... hope this will bring something new to the table !

budweiser · Post by **budweiser** » Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:12 pm

Just saw the price

I'll buy it with or without the table. It's clear they're feeling vst3 needs a little help...

standalone · Post by **standalone** » Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:34 pm

Aerio wrote:
standalone wrote:
Aerio wrote:What's even more interesting, that Steinberg is starting to ditch the dongle!
Sequel doesn't need a dongle either.
That's exactly what I mean:
Sequel, Cubase Elements (which I use), Wavelab Elements, SoundPacks, and now their first instrument! Maybe this is a test route, and one day we'll see Halion or Cubase without that crappy dongle...

By the way, their soft elicenser c/r system is very client-friendly: no unworthy begging for new activations, licenses transferable. And one BIG advantage over their dongle:

When your dongle gets lost or broken, you will lose all your product licenses. But you will never lose soft elicenser licenses, even if your whole pc gets lost!

No, expensive products = dongle; cheap products = soft eLicenser. It's a simple as that. Steinberg OWNS eLicenser and it's here to stay because it works like a charm for them. And for me too, there is nothing 'crappy' in dongles, I wish I could store all my licenses in one of them.

And about losing your licenses.......again 'no':

http://www.steinberg.net/forum/viewtopi ... =19&t=4346

Neon Breath · Post by **Neon Breath** » Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:40 pm

Sonically, sounds good for the audio demos. Still, in use it will be quite interesting to see how it's going to stand against all the other granular monsters already outhere like Reaktor, Alchemy, Absynth, Granite, DensityGS, Crusher X, etc etc

Albert.VST · Post by **Albert.VST** » Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:20 pm

So we need something like a VST3 to VST2 bridge

KBSoundSmith · Post by **KBSoundSmith** » Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:25 pm

Neon Breath wrote:It will be quite interesting to see how it's going to stand against all the other granular monsters already outhere like Reaktor, Alchemy, Absynth, Granite, DensityGS, Crusher X, etc etc

At $50, it will probably hold up quite well. Although I wonder if it will end up being an issue that (at least as I understand it so far) they don't allow you to use your own samples for the instrument.

Neon Breath · Post by **Neon Breath** » Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:29 pm

KBSoundSmith wrote: At $50, it will probably hold up quite well. Although I wonder if it will end up being an issue that (at least as I understand it so far) they don't allow you to use your own samples for the instrument.

Yep, it's already an issue for me I don't wanna work with something that doesn't let me use the sounds of my choice or my own samples + that VST3 only thing

But you're right nice price, definitly a +

C-note · Post by **C-note** » Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:50 pm

standalone wrote:
Aerio wrote:
standalone wrote:
Aerio wrote:What's even more interesting, that Steinberg is starting to ditch the dongle!
Sequel doesn't need a dongle either.
That's exactly what I mean:
Sequel, Cubase Elements (which I use), Wavelab Elements, SoundPacks, and now their first instrument! Maybe this is a test route, and one day we'll see Halion or Cubase without that crappy dongle...

By the way, their soft elicenser c/r system is very client-friendly: no unworthy begging for new activations, licenses transferable. And one BIG advantage over their dongle:

When your dongle gets lost or broken, you will lose all your product licenses. But you will never lose soft elicenser licenses, even if your whole pc gets lost!
No, expensive products = dongle; cheap products = soft eLicenser. It's a simple as that. Steinberg OWNS eLicenser and it's here to stay because it works like a charm for them. And for me too, there is nothing 'crappy' in dongles, I wish I could store all my licenses in one of them.

And about losing your licenses.......again 'no':

http://www.steinberg.net/forum/viewtopi ... =19&t=4346

Yep, I too wish I could put everything on a dongle, a lot of advantages from my perspective. Will definitely buy this synth as soon as it comes out.

Giusmex · Post by **Giusmex** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:57 pm

Hi guys,

i saw the video and thi plug in seems really interesting

the only thing that i dont catch ( because i dont have a clue of it) is the vst2 format

what is the issue with the vst3 format? is it alreay implemented and included in cubase ( I own version 6) or ist it another thing?

and why has jbridge been mentioned? is it is by steinberg, what is the problem?

RandomWave · Post by **RandomWave** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:45 pm

Albert.VST is suggestion that if something like "jbridge" were available for VST3 to VST2 conversion the same way 32bit/64bit is, then you could run Padshop in your DAW.

The issue is most DAWs dont support VST3 format currently. So those who arent using a VST3 compatibly host cant use Padshop or any other VST3 instrument or effect until its implemented.

It would be great if Steinberg released VST2 and VST3 versions. Then there would be no issue (or the DAW you are using adds VST3 support in the future which is more likely.)

You could use VST Host - http://www.hermannseib.com which supports VST3 as an alternative for your VST3 plug ins if you dont mind using 2 different host applications.

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:54 pm

Giusmex wrote:what is the issue with the vst3 format? is it alreay implemented and included in cubase ( I own version 6) or ist it another thing?

Yes, it's already included in Cubase 6.

Steinberg Padshop