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hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:08 pm

Actually, the reap crashed on me today so that's what I get for posting how "stable" everything is

LawrenceF · Post by **LawrenceF** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:15 pm

hibidy wrote:Actually, the reap crashed on me today so that's what I get for posting how "stable" everything is

Self fulfilling prophecy?

JCS does much, much better than most at squashing "bugs" quickly, but they aren't perfect either. There actually are some longstanding "issues" that some may perceive as "bugs" in the Reap.

Everything will crash for somebody somewhere sometime. I tend to ignore the random ... "X hasn't crashed on me once in 5 years and I never turn off my computer!" ... comments about any software

... especially software running in Windows.

Bronto Scorpio · Post by **Bronto Scorpio** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:19 pm

The best thing is a closed beta followed by an open beta imo.
And I wouldn't be surprised if that's what the Bitwig guys want to do.

Open betas alone are practically useless imo. 90% of the guys who apply just want to use the software early and for free for a time.
Than there are the things GeorgeZ mentioned. They need a proper bugtracking system to really gain something from it. But even then most of the reported "bugs" will be just user errors/duplicates/whining etc.
It is way to much work to keep track of all the reports.

In a closed beta with some well choosen people all the obvious bugs can be ironed out.
It is impossible to find all bugs in a closed beta though since there are so many different system configurations these days (especially for plugins).

That's why I think that a closed beta before an open beta makes sense.

Someone mentioned Diva as an example for a working open beta, well there was a long closed beta phase before that.

Just my experience.
I'm beta testing for a few developers but sadly not for Bitwig

Lets just wait for the demo before we complain about possible bugs

Cheers
Dennis

LawrenceF · Post by **LawrenceF** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:21 pm

Bronto Scorpio wrote: Let's just wait for the demo before we complain about possible bugs

Cheers
Dennis

Where's the fun in that?

Bronto Scorpio · Post by **Bronto Scorpio** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:22 pm

LawrenceF wrote:
Bronto Scorpio wrote: Let's just wait for the demo before we complain about possible bugs

Cheers
Dennis
Where's the fun in that?

GeorgeZ · Post by **GeorgeZ** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:31 pm

hibidy wrote:Oh no, you too????

...don't be silly mate. That was "my logic" speaking. My "kid inside" is screaming *public beta, public beta!!!*

cause sadly it seems they have bigger issues than bugs, I haven't received my beta invite

Must just be an oversight! Sure it'll get sorted soon

GeorgeZ · Post by **GeorgeZ** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:34 pm

hibidy wrote:What usually happens is version "a" is released. Usually, it doesn't work. Then, version "a1" may be released quickly, or may be released a month or more from that time

Erm... **cough***cakewalk***cough***...

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:11 pm

@oversight: I know what you mean!

audiojunkie · Post by **audiojunkie** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:22 pm

munchkin wrote:Oh and I hear it uses iLok!

Kidding.

--Sean

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:24 pm

GeorgeZ wrote:
hibidy wrote:What usually happens is version "a" is released. Usually, it doesn't work. Then, version "a1" may be released quickly, or may be released a month or more from that time
Erm... **cough***cakewalk***cough***...

uh huh...

musikmachine · Post by **musikmachine** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:36 pm

GeorgeZ wrote:
hibidy wrote:Oh no, you too????
...don't be silly mate. That was "my logic" speaking. My "kid inside" is screaming *public beta, public beta!!!* cause sadly it seems they have bigger issues than bugs, I haven't received my beta invite Must just be an oversight! Sure it'll get sorted soon

Me either.

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:10 am

It's a plot guys. It's Lawrence, he TOLD them not to.

LawrenceF · Post by **LawrenceF** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:22 am

hibidy wrote:It's a plot guys. It's Lawrence, he TOLD them not to.

Haha.

If I could tell them that I'd have a copy. Maybe we should pull a Mission Impossibile caper on the Wig's offices at 3 a.m. or something.

In all seriousness though, I'm actually much less interested these days. I'm not exactly the target audience, I don't think. I find the shot across the bow of Live more interesting than me potentially trying the app. It should result in some entertaining Internet threads.

I mean, it's currently kinda vaporware and yet ... a 22 page thread.

GeorgeZ · Post by **GeorgeZ** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:02 am

LawrenceF wrote:I mean, it's currently kinda vaporware and yet ... a 22 page thread.

Meh, can't call it vaporware until it's at least at 124.6 pages, and a year after the final "it'll be out soon" announcement

I doubt I'll get this though, too many DAWs already (half of which I don't even use

ever), and it's projected price is redic... especially for a V1 with NO cred.

musikmachine · Post by **musikmachine** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:21 am

hibidy wrote:It's a plot guys. It's Lawrence, he TOLD them not to.

Oh noes. It's an internet lynching.

Bitwig Studio announced