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psychoxkps · Post by **psychoxkps** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:59 am

i want to pitchbend non reaktor plugins with reaktor fx.. what to wire please?

nix808 · Post by **nix808** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:02 am

it's kinda hard man,
I would look at the user examples and find something similar.
In ur other thread, we all thought u were talking about a synth's frequency input, not a pitch-shifting fx.
Currently I am trying to do this shifting fx,
can have look how to implement in Reaktor soon.
What I have done in SynthMaker is take a 1000 sample grain,
resample it and fade the ends to stream it back out.
Maybe look for a resample function?
all success

psychoxkps · Post by **psychoxkps** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:08 am

resampling? i thought it only need a frequency within input and add multiplier to pitchbend and modulation.. i dont know.. post please if u find something..

nix808 · Post by **nix808** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:19 am

I think I understand now,
would you like to connect the LFO to pitchbend on a VSTi?
A pitch shifting fx is harder and less effective.

psychoxkps · Post by **psychoxkps** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:26 am

and iam stuck at it maybe 1,5 month....

nix808 · Post by **nix808** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:35 am

OK,
I'll fire up Reaktor.
We need to find out which MIDImessage# is pitch bend,
and the 'send MIDI event' module in Reaktor.
What host do you use?
Most hosts support recieving MIDI from other plugins,
but if yours doesn't we can use Maple virtual MIDI cable,
if you are 32-bit OS.
Pitch bend is 16384 values, so zippering isn't a problem,
the range has to be set in the VSTi though.
Give me a couple of days and I'll look into it.
Nice to meet you

psychoxkps · Post by **psychoxkps** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:52 am

pitchbend midi message module u find in built in module->midi in->pitchbend and that second i really dont know about what u talking:)

and i have automation in my host.. maschine for info..

nix808 · Post by **nix808** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:46 am

http://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/qm2sk8
I have this 4u.
It works when u load Reaktor as standalone and route to the host with 'Maple' MIDI router.
I have modulate pb on Pro-53 w/- it.
I'm having trouble getting it to work when Reaktor is loaded as a VSTi within Orion though, damn.
Let me know if it's a start.
Cheers

psychoxkps · Post by **psychoxkps** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:32 pm

but there is not routed input.. how it can work??

nix808 · Post by **nix808** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:31 pm

the signal flow I have working is-
Reaktor LFO is first in chain(it has to be connected to audio out to stream)
Then to pitch bend out(sends the MIDI message)
MIDI out in Reaktor standalone is set Maple virtual cable
Orion MIDI in is set to maple
Pro-53 is configured to recieve MIDI

So yeah, u need to send MIDI into the VSTi,
it's not an effect as such.
LFO first in signal chain

I have asked in Orion forum why I cannot route the pitch bend message within Orion. It may be successful in other DAWS.

psychoxkps · Post by **psychoxkps** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:47 am

its very complicated.. sorry iam not that pro in reaktor and i have very poor english.. cant u do it just like fx? probably not:(

nix808 · Post by **nix808** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:01 am

it's best to do it as a MIDI message.
It works better-
there is no delay like u have in a fx(which requires the resampling or similar)
Your english is quite good IMO,
much better than me at a second language.
What VSTi would u like the pitchbend to affect?
If I have it I can try get it to work.
I have Kore, but sorry, not Maschine.
It could be less complicated in Maschine,
as it's all NI.
In fact I think NI would want this to work-
if u want to try Maschine forum or support.
But for sure the signal chain is that you pipe the MIDI pitchbend message into the VSTi.
I want to get this to work in Orion without'Maple',
it's a cool function.
Hope we can get it to go for you

Maple is the best virtual MIDI router IMO,
it has no CPU overhead-
but it doesn't work on 64-bit OS

psychoxkps · Post by **psychoxkps** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:35 pm

massive, absynth & fm8 i want pitchbend.. but i give everything for simpliest pitchbend setting and in reaktor is the only way if u only have komplete 8 ultimate.. and my os is 64bit..

nix808 · Post by **nix808** » Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:21 am

I have Komplete and 64-bit OS to test on.
Can you not automate pitch-bend in Maschine?
Otherwise need to seek the method to send and recieve MIDI in Maschine.
I agree that Reaktor would be a flexible tool to craft an LFO in.

psychoxkps · Post by **psychoxkps** » Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:03 pm

i want only automate speed of ramp lfo envelope and if lfo envelope ramp(use only ramp and that too i dont know where to find in reaktor and maybe do it through triangle but that isn that professional) is inverted or not(pitchbend up or down).. hear.. for what exactly are that resampling? i really dont know i know better surley.. i dont want to confuse you but that are maybe better....

reaktor pitchshift effect