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DEdge · Post by **DEdge** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 3:59 am

I have the MTron from GMedia with all the Tape Banks and love it. Great sounds and as Dave S mentioned above there are some Chamberlin sounds in there. When I first got it I thought I would just use it here and there -little accents and such, but I find myself going to it all time. Highly recommend. I'm sure some of the sample CD's are great too -I'll have to check em out.

-DEdge

AndreasE · Post by **AndreasE** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 9:21 am

Dave Spiers wrote:Vol3 has the real Moody Blues style stuff on it including the massive Halfspeed Pinder sound, plus the M300 violin section and the M300 strings and solo violins.

That´s interesting for me as a strong Moody Blues fan. Until now I only had Vol1&2 - now it´s time to buy Vol3, too.

electro · Post by **electro** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 5:38 pm

I've got all 3 M-tron tape banks unlooped 8 second sample. I also have the Vintage Timetraveler CD which stretches samples over keys.

putte · Post by **putte** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 11:31 pm

Dave Spiers wrote:.. as I'm not as obsessional about the M-Tron as some around here (putte?) ..

.. is it this goa-music synth you showed me lately?

putte

duncanparsons · Post by **duncanparsons** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 11:50 pm

putte wrote:
Dave Spiers wrote:.. as I'm not as obsessional about the M-Tron as some around here (putte?) ..
.. is it this goa-music synth you showed me lately?

putte

Is that Onehand Sebastian Bach at the keys?

DSP

falkelab · Post by **falkelab** » Sat Apr 03, 2004 6:28 pm

Have you tried my STRINGER? Beatiful Melotro strings for free... ;o)

Follow the link below....

IvoryTickler · Post by **IvoryTickler** » Sat Apr 03, 2004 8:12 pm

I have the M-Tron with banks 1 and 2, which is OK - (I rarely use it now). One of the sounds I wanted was the strings, to get that classic "Starless" (King Crimson) sound.

Well, it's not possible. All the string samples in the M-Tron are shot to pieces, whereas in Starless they are as smooth as silk. I have tried loads of combinations of reverb, eq, etc, and can only presume that KC's Mellotron had good tapes in it.

Stringer doesn't do it for me, neither does Sonic Synth's "Tron strings" sound.

Ah well.

John Vulich · Post by **John Vulich** » Sat Apr 03, 2004 9:37 pm

craigmorris74 wrote:The Mike Pinder Presents the Mellotron and Chambelin sample CD totally kicks the crap out of the M-Tron. It was recorded by a guy who just wanted to get ALL of the great Mellotron sounds on one CD.
A cheaper route is the Masterbits Mellotrax sample CD. It doesn't have near as many different samples as the Pinder CD, but a recorded in very high fidelity.

Yeah, the Pinder CD is pretty amazing. When I first loaded it up in my sampler I was blown away at the sound. It pretty much stomped over every other Mellotron emu/rompler/sample/patch I've ever heard. It sounds like the real deal. I don't know about the M-Tron but a lot of the other patches that I've heard use short looped samples whereas, on Pinder's CD, they have the full 8 seconds of each note which adds so much more life to it. It's like night and day.

klagga · Post by **klagga** » Sat Apr 03, 2004 11:01 pm

This Mike Pinder CD, is it available to buy anywhere?

Can´t find a dealer.

Har · Post by **Har** » Sat Apr 03, 2004 11:46 pm

Alan Hope wrote:I have the M-Tron with banks 1 and 2, which is OK - (I rarely use it now). One of the sounds I wanted was the strings, to get that classic "Starless" (King Crimson) sound.

Well, it's not possible. All the string samples in the M-Tron are shot to pieces, whereas in Starless they are as smooth as silk. I have tried loads of combinations of reverb, eq, etc, and can only presume that KC's Mellotron had good tapes in it.

Stringer doesn't do it for me, neither does Sonic Synth's "Tron strings" sound.

Ah well.

It is possible, but I think you might be trying to do it using the wrong "tape".

I've managed to get the "Starless" sound (as well as the "Nights In White Satin" and Yes' "Heart Of The Sunrise" sound) using the MTron violins (I believe it's actually the "3 Violins" Mellotron tape) with some reverb, not the Strings themselves: 3 Violins is much smoother, with that eerie, haunting feel.

You're right about the usual "Strings" Mellotron samples available: I've found the actual Strings to be way too "thick" sounding and lacking the gentle subtlety needed for this specific purpose. Sadly, most of the free Mellotron samples I've seen out there (like the free Hovercraft collection, which seems to have found its way into a few free VSTi's and Soundfonts) only provide the Strings, not the 3 Violins "tapes"...but MTron does.

At Mellotron.com (yep, they still make them!)...they say this about the 3 Violins tape (note the Mike Pindar comment):

"This most famous Mellotron sound was used on countless recordings from 1964 to the present. Michael Pinder used this sound in his Mk II Mellotron for every Moody Blues album he recorded. Performance tips for this sound are: Use a volume pedal. Michael double tracked all of his string arrangements. Judicious use of EQ, particularly on the upper octave and a good plate reverb setting ( Tony Clarke used an old EMT plate). The real trick to Michael's Mellotron sound is a very smooth legato technique and Tony's engineering genius, but the above mentioned approach will get you close."

They have a sampling of all the various classic Mellotron tapes (with MP3 soundclips) at: http://www.mellotron.com/soundframe.htm

klagga wrote:This Mike Pinder CD, is it available to buy anywhere?

Can´t find a dealer.

It's available here:

http://www.mellotron.com/cdlist.htm

Mr Arkadin · Post by **Mr Arkadin** » Sun Apr 04, 2004 12:55 am

As well as all those tips on EQ and reverbs, don't forget that those early Tron's didn't have line outputs so their speakers were miked, so a speaker and mic simulator will also be needed to get that real vintage feel (some of the M-Tron's sounds are from a miked MII, but not all).

AndreasE · Post by **AndreasE** » Sun Apr 04, 2004 5:31 pm

Har wrote:I've managed to get the "Starless" sound (as well as the "Nights In White Satin" and Yes' "Heart Of The Sunrise" sound) using the MTron violins (I believe it's actually the "3 Violins" Mellotron tape) with some reverb, not the Strings themselves: 3 Violins is much smoother, with that eerie, haunting feel.

Exactly, you´re totally right. In many early Moody Blues songs Mike Pinder used the 3violins sound. And early Yes, Genesis and King Crimson used it sometimes, too.

klagga · Post by **klagga** » Sun Apr 04, 2004 5:48 pm

This Mike Pinder CD, is it available to buy anywhere?

Can´t find a dealer.

Har · Post by **Har** » Sun Apr 04, 2004 5:56 pm

klagga wrote:This Mike Pinder CD, is it available to buy anywhere?

Can´t find a dealer.

Yep. Look at the last item in my previous post.

klagga · Post by **klagga** » Sun Apr 04, 2004 6:45 pm

Thanks Har, sorry I missed your tip.

I´ve already searched at mellotron.com, but the website has been down the whole day. Hopefully it will be back soon.

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