KVR Audio

ZenPunkHippy · Post by **ZenPunkHippy** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:57 am

More info + video of Geist CM here:

http://www.musicradar.com/computermusic ... ine-507097

Peace,
Andy.

CT · Post by CT » Sun Mar 04, 2012 7:00 am

It was in the CM Beats & Bass special. They were also offering 50% off the price of Geist. Im sure the magazine will still be available through myfavouritemagazines.co.uk, but sadly the 50% off deal is no longer valid

braj · Post by **braj** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 7:03 am

I'm in the US, plus I looked and they don't have that particular issue for sale any longer anyhow. I should get a CM subscription

how do you do that exactly?

Anyhow, yeah Geist may be perfect but I'm rather poor. I could get by just with the piano roll for the music I make, but of course Geist would change the music I make pretty dramatically I imagine.

braj · Post by **braj** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:09 am

I just saw Geist's price of $250 US, yeah I'll never be able to justify that. Does anyone has any other suggestions? iDrum is looking more likely as what I'll end up getting. $30 is way more likely for me to come up with.

Edit: I'm giving up on iDrum, the UI seems to slip between ok and unresponsive way too much. Other way more taxing plugins run smooth as silk on the same machine, so I don't think it's 'me.' Uninstall and move on.

breakmixer · Post by **breakmixer** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:28 am

My fave drum machine is Poise, but you said it's not what you are looking for, does this fit your needs...?

http://www.image-line.com/documents/groovemachine.html

may be out of your price range though...

braj · Post by **braj** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:39 am

breakmixer wrote:My fave drum machine is Poise, but you said it's not what you are looking for, does this fit your needs...?

http://www.image-line.com/documents/groovemachine.html

may be out of your price range though...

I think that is a little overkill too maybe, price and feature-wise. I was looking at Drumaxx @ $99 is more in the ballpark but I'm not thrilled about how it handles patterns, I would rather export to the piano roll. I dunno what I'm a gonna do

but no rush. I'm playing with the Drumaxx demo now.

thebaggytrouseredone · Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:51 am

You should keep an eye out for Geist in the Market place section of the forum. I got a good deal through an offer at FXPansion and you find used copies for sale in this forum.

flmflm · Post by **flmflm** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:53 am

maybe this?

http://www.contralogic.com/vst-plugins/rps-1/

braj · Post by **braj** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:02 am

Well this is fun to play with and free:

http://www.psychicmodulation.com/Cubix.html

Mechanought · Post by **Mechanought** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:24 am

Oooooh.

I've been looking for something like poise for a while now!

I started out with Reason and as such got hooked on Kong Drum Designer.

I really like the creative flow that the design offers and Poise looks like it does anything that Kong can do, but I can route outputs much more easily and use some better FX to shape my sound.

I could read KVR for hours and find all kinds of great stuff! You guys rule!

braj · Post by **braj** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:39 am

After trying lots of plugins tonight, DK+ looks the best fit for me, [price and feature-wise. I'm going to keep playing with the demo and see how that goes, being able to easily send the patterns to the piano roll is a huge plus for me.

braj · Post by **braj** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:19 am

Actually, I still am not pleased with DK+ as a solution, I tested how long and easy it was to enter the same pattern in DK+'s sequencer vs. manually doing it in the piano roll, and the piano roll was easier, faster, and more direct. Plus while DK+ outputs a midi file, it doesn't appear to be a GM mapped file so its usefulness is tied to DK+. Maybe I can remap it, or maybe I am missing something, but it seems starting a pattern in the piano roll, hiding unused notes, and working there is much easier. Maybe I'm chasing a phantom, I can just work in the piano roll for free, and maybe wait till Geist or something premium is at a price I can afford. I took a look at Geist demo and have to say it wasn't so approachable to me, but then i need some sleep.

The one feature of iDrum I really liked was being able to draw out hat patterns etc. with dynamic variation quickly, and DK+ still doesn't do that, you set the levels one by one. I can do this easy enough in the piano roll if I just change my workflow a little. But I always want to spend money, that is the lesson I'm learning from this. Sometimes the better solution is to learn to use the tools you already have.

Vnex007 · Post by **Vnex007** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:33 am

I remember trying Synapse Orion that it had a drumplayer like that.

http://www.synapse-audio.com/orioninstruments.html

It only works in Orion, but maybe you need to check it out.

What DAW do you use (I overlooked it perhaps)?

braj · Post by **braj** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:38 am

Vnex007 wrote:I remember trying Synapse Orion that it had a drumplayer like that.

http://www.synapse-audio.com/orioninstruments.html

It only works in Orion, but maybe you need to check it out.

What DAW do you use (I overlooked it perhaps)?

Reaper, and I'm happy with that, I tried Orion years ago but it wasn't really for me, I don't think it has changed that dramatically, plus the price doesn't tempt me to switch. I think I'm good with Reaper and the piano roll, I'll play with the demo for Geist and see if i get a grip on it, and if it makes sense for me. It doesn't seem the other options are any more elegant than the piano roll, maybe less so really.

ClubHo · Post by **ClubHo** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:03 pm

Give Nerve a try. You may like it. If you do, you can always buy it used.

http://www.xferrecords.com/products/nerve

Club Ho

Anything else like iDrum?