KVR Audio

koolkeys · Post by **koolkeys** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:05 pm

headquest wrote:For comparisson, here's a claim made in a printed advert in the current issue of Music Tech Magazine (and no doubt all the other mags too):

AVID Marketing wrote:Introducing Pro Tools 10, the next generation of the best sounding, most powerful audio production software for recording, composing, editing and mixing music and sound for picture.

Well, I think a lot of hosts are the BEST sounding. Just not BETTER because they are equal for the most part(some don't offer floating point, or 64-bit audio path, etc.).

So you can claim to be the best, but just leaving out the fact that many are "tied" for the best.

Just sayin'

hivkorn · Post by **hivkorn** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:08 pm

I SOUND BETTER

braj · Post by **braj** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:09 pm

I didn't say he should be fired, but reprimanded or replaced in that position of representing the company publicly, he should be adjusted, fixed. Unless of courses the intention was to seed people's kinds that Studio One sounds better, which may totally be the case. Then they should give him a placard or something

Anyhow, it doesn't make me a fascist to say that. You might as well call me a table lamp, its about as accurate. Believe it or not, using words properly is necessary for coherent communication.

koolkeys · Post by **koolkeys** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:09 pm

hivkorn wrote:I SOUND BETTER

Yes you do, but only 20-40% better. Anything else is pure nonsense!

Brent

standalone · Post by **standalone** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:09 pm

koolkeys wrote:I'll be called a fanboy or whatever else people can come up with, sure.

'Fanboy' like someone who calls three multimillioner's employees "independent developers" ......... no!

standalone · Post by **standalone** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:12 pm

braj wrote:Believe it or not, using words properly is necessary for coherent communication.

And what about telepathy?

hivkorn · Post by **hivkorn** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:13 pm

yes but it's 20/40 % more than everybody

dgkenney · Post by **dgkenney** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:15 pm

braj wrote: Believe it or not, using words properly is necessary for coherent communication.

I agree.

And that's why I say that Studio One is unsurpassed in sound quality.

Dan

koolkeys · Post by **koolkeys** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:15 pm

braj wrote:I didn't say he should be fired, but reprimanded or replaced in that position of representing the company publicly, he should be adjusted, fixed. Unless of courses the intention was to seed people's kinds that Studio One sounds better, which may totally be the case. Then they should give him a placard or something

Anyhow, it doesn't make me a fascist to say that. You might as well call me a table lamp, its about as accurate. Believe it or not, using words properly is necessary for coherent communication.

Well, I didn't use the fascist terminology, nor do I think it's really necessary. But you did say "if not fired", essentially saying that it would be an appropriate punishment.

Regardless, my post was not really targeting you directly(more gpunk, really as far as the firing thing is concerned), but also intended as a general statement. I used the firing thing as an example, mostly.

My guess is that he was reprimanded to some extent, hence pulling the blog post. It's not really my business what goes on behind company doors. Whether he intentionally tried to plant a seed, only he knows. I don't know that he ever stated anything as an indisputable fact, but rather the opinion he held and others he knew.

Don't remember the entire post word for word though, so I may be wrong.

Brent

braj · Post by **braj** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:17 pm

standalone wrote:
braj wrote:Believe it or not, using words properly is necessary for coherent communication.
And what about telepathy?

well I'm sending you a telepathic message right now.....

standalone · Post by **standalone** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:21 pm

braj wrote:
standalone wrote:
braj wrote:Believe it or not, using words properly is necessary for coherent communication.
And what about telepathy?

well I'm sending you a telepathic message right now.....

Got it!

(it hurts.......)

hivkorn · Post by **hivkorn** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:22 pm

i've never understand this kind of battle....Let the people think what they want , i means , if the guy tells that Pro tools sound better it would have been the same thing in the other way !

I use studio one pro V2 and cubase Essential V5 , it don't sound the same way but it don't mean it suck ! i mean everybody can found their use with these two software (and the other)....I really don't understand you guy....

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:31 pm

liquid wind wrote:Yes but hasn't pro tools -always- been surrounded by that kind of BS? I don't know if any of it came from the actual developers but it seems like their userbase, more than any other, perpetuates ridiculous myths like "our 1+1 results in a better 2 than your DAW because of the superior audio engine"

Exactly my point - claiming that Pro Tools "Sounds better" never harmed Digidesign/AVID's reputation or credibility. If anything, there were some people who thought more highly of them (i.e. believed the nonsense hype).

And in exactly the same way I'm sure that blog post won't harm Presonus in any way either.

braj · Post by **braj** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:31 pm

koolkeys wrote:
braj wrote:I didn't say he should be fired, but reprimanded or replaced in that position of representing the company publicly, he should be adjusted, fixed. Unless of courses the intention was to seed people's kinds that Studio One sounds better, which may totally be the case. Then they should give him a placard or something

Anyhow, it doesn't make me a fascist to say that. You might as well call me a table lamp, its about as accurate. Believe it or not, using words properly is necessary for coherent communication.
Well, I didn't use the fascist terminology, nor do I think it's really necessary. But you did say "if not fired", essentially saying that it would be an appropriate punishment.

Regardless, my post was not really targeting you directly(more gpunk, really as far as the firing thing is concerned), but also intended as a general statement. I used the firing thing as an example, mostly.

My guess is that he was reprimanded to some extent, hence pulling the blog post. It's not really my business what goes on behind company doors. Whether he intentionally tried to plant a seed, only he knows. I don't know that he ever stated anything as an indisputable fact, but rather the opinion he held and others he knew.

Don't remember the entire post word for word though, so I may be wrong.

Brent

Sorry if I wasn't clear, I was responding to someone saying he should be fired, and was meaning to say, 'well, not fired, but reprimanded.' Also in my mind being 'fired' doesn't necessarily mean losing your employment, just the current position in which you serve, so I didn't take it to be as mean and cruel as you guys

It seems that Presonus hosts a blog, but considers any posts to be perceived as independent opinions, but when I see a company blog I figure the people posting are employed by and speak for the company, that is my subjective perception from my individual experiences. Anyhow, I have the Studio One demo on two machines and sincerely was trying to see if it worked for me, I use Reaper but beyond that and older versions of Live and Logic I don't really know what I'm missing from other hosts. I'm not beating up on Studio One to be clear, nor Presonus, nor that blogger, just talking about the posting because notifications of updates to this thread keep showing up in my inbox. Yes I need professional

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:32 pm

Actually... most of the successful companies at present are those that rely on BS and totally over-the-top and misleading hype in their marketing - AVID and Propellerhead come rapidly to mind (and I few others that I dare not mention...). So why not Presonus follow suit

Studio One sounds better, thanks to... It just does.