Most CPU efficient host?

[jancivil]

*Reaper is the most popular host at KVR*. We know this already. This thread is another, 'what's the best DAW?' REAPER!

Well... in terms of CPU efficiency Reaper IS simply the best. As much as i hate the "try Reaper" "Use Reaper" posts or threads in this forum as well. Saying that, i tried Cubase 6 (Elements), energyXT, Podium Free and LMMS. None even come near Reaper regarding VST performance and speed. Cubase is the most bloated and slowest of the ones i mentioned btw... it's a shame that you cannot just deativate stuff you don't need. I mean seriously, what's the percentage of users who use the video engine in it for example...

heheh

I would lose the whole media bay, personally. truly that will be a non-starter for Steiny though. IDK enough about it to address turning features off.

I found my solution, no complaints, but for a time I was looking at other hosts, Logic, DP... nope. I've very particular reasons, besides the simple, it's what I know, it's what I like thing.

[Hink]

not on the list of course...but simply because of the hybrid engine I think the answer is Samplitude

What is it about the hybrid engine, I know very little about Samplitude other than it is out of my price range

basically it allows you to allocate your cpu usgae between normal and economy tracks freeing cpu...btw samp is no longer the high price beast it was. Just last month they had a sale where you could get Pro X for 374 usd...that's the same thing as what 12 pro would be. It's full featured as all the pro versions before it but it no longer has the AM-suite or VANDAL, also Pro X comes with a 2 gig version of Yellow Tools Indy pro...if you get the Pro X suite you get the 70 gig version of indy, VANDAL and the AM-suite. (that's the same price as samp 11 pro)

But here's the deal, if you are using third party plugs now you like and do not care for the sampler you are getting the full featured 64 bit samplitude and it's regular price is 499, I believe you can get it on a crossgrade for 399, it's downloadable (Pro X not Pro X Suite) and no more dongle. The fx that still come with it are awesome, I believe you still get variverb (but dont quote me on that), object based workflow, samp's automation, samps freeze (yeah I know why use a freeze because it's low on cpu but samp's freeze is a great bounce in place), Elastic Audio, audio quantize...watch the sales. Florida music often has them

[justin3am]

since it uses DSPs for it's mixer and effects

I was wondering about that for DAWs in general, what are the options for off-loading plugins for Live or (dare I ask) Reaper? I don't know much about that.

UAD is the only option that's currently being made. You can find used TC Powercore and SSL Duende DSP boxes for reasonable prices but I can't say if they are still being supported. Did the Focusrite Liquid Mix have VST support?

[jancivil]

What's NOT too subjective for accurate polling? Maybe I shouldn't have used a poll at all, they are pretty pointless really but just to get a concise number in the thread (especially if there are a lot of replies) polls are helpful, if not scientific.

IDK... you have Logic with a 7% and Cubase at 15%, which isn't right.
That reveals 'more users on windows' if anything. REAPER will win, and may be truly the most efficient. If this passes without criticism though there might be people making decisions out of bad information... unless everyone is going to go for Reaper anyway.



I'm affected by an ad populum argument in reverse, I have never been so averse to a bit of software as I am with that one...

[braj]

Yeah but with Samplitude we're still talking $375 vs $60 and I used Reaper long enough to know it was worth that $60 to me I didn't upgrade Live because of the upgrade costs, I don't work any more, so my income is very low and I couldn't justify the expense. $60 for Reaper was a steal, a no-brainer, I may at some point get another DAW (was thinking about Reason Essentials or FL Studio, something that will compliment Reaper) but unless finances change I'm out of the $500 DAW price range.

Maybe it's a good thing that I don't have much experience with other DAWs so whatever deficiencies Reaper has UI or workflow-wise I really don't know any better There is much to the saying 'ignorance is bliss', taking a few years off digital music made Reaper look mighty good to me even if it is commonly known as an ugly beast.

[UltraJv]

since it uses DSPs for it's mixer and effects

I was wondering about that for DAWs in general, what are the options for off-loading plugins for Live or (dare I ask) Reaper? I don't know much about that.

UAD is the only option that's currently being made. You can find used TC Powercore and SSL Duende DSP boxes for reasonable prices but I can't say if they are still being supported. Did the Focusrite Liquid Mix have VST support?

There are a few reverbs that run on graphics cards.

http://www.liquidsonics.com/software_reverberate_le.htm

[braj]

since it uses DSPs for it's mixer and effects

I was wondering about that for DAWs in general, what are the options for off-loading plugins for Live or (dare I ask) Reaper? I don't know much about that.

UAD is the only option that's currently being made. You can find used TC Powercore and SSL Duende DSP boxes for reasonable prices but I can't say if they are still being supported. Did the Focusrite Liquid Mix have VST support?

So UAD starts at $399

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audi ... uad-2-solo

So please forgive my ignorance, but would that make running Diva for example less taxing?

[braj]

What's NOT too subjective for accurate polling? Maybe I shouldn't have used a poll at all, they are pretty pointless really but just to get a concise number in the thread (especially if there are a lot of replies) polls are helpful, if not scientific.

IDK... you have Logic with a 7% and Cubase at 15%, which isn't right.
That reveals 'more users on windows' if anything. REAPER will win, and may be truly the most efficient. If this passes without criticism though there might be people making decisions out of bad information... unless everyone is going to go for Reaper anyway.



I'm affected by an ad populum argument in reverse, I have never been so averse to a bit of software as I am with that one...

That's funny because when first trying Reaper it reminded my of my past experiences with Logic. And it runs on Macs (so does Cubase). But we all have some irrational fears and prejudices

[justin3am]

since it uses DSPs for it's mixer and effects

I was wondering about that for DAWs in general, what are the options for off-loading plugins for Live or (dare I ask) Reaper? I don't know much about that.

UAD is the only option that's currently being made. You can find used TC Powercore and SSL Duende DSP boxes for reasonable prices but I can't say if they are still being supported. Did the Focusrite Liquid Mix have VST support?

So UAD starts at $399

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audi ... uad-2-solo

So please forgive my ignorance, but would that make running Diva for example less taxing?

Well you can't run just any VST on these DSPs, you can only run plug-ins designed for the UAD platform on UAD DSPs.
If you use a lot of effects it could make it easier to run a few CPU intensive instruments, though.

[braj]

Well you can't run just any VST on these DSPs, you can only run plug-ins designed for the UAD platform on UAD DSPs.
If you use a lot of effects it could make it easier to run a few CPU intensive instruments, though.

Thanks, yeah I don't use a ton of effects, nor a ton of tracks.

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[poshook]

*Reaper is the most popular host at KVR*. We know this already. This thread is another, 'what's the best DAW?' REAPER!

Well... in terms of CPU efficiency Reaper IS simply the best. As much as i hate the "try Reaper" "Use Reaper" posts or threads in this forum as well. Saying that, i tried Cubase 6 (Elements), energyXT, Podium Free and LMMS. None even come near Reaper regarding VST performance and speed. Cubase is the most bloated and slowest of the ones i mentioned btw... it's a shame that you cannot just deativate stuff you don't need. I mean seriously, what's the percentage of users who use the video engine in it for example...

You are right. The speed of Reaper is awesome. Everytime I open Reaper it shout off very fast. For me the most unstable DAW on the market

[luckystrike]

No pro fools?

[braj]

Yeah but with Samplitude we're still talking $375 vs $60 ...

that is apples versus oranges !!!

you take the higher price of Samplitude which is valid as a universal commercial license and compare it against a discounted non universal license!!!

but that's the usual way fanboys work

Please stop calling names, it is a matter of economics and necessity, I'm no pro so can't justify that price for my doodling around, I am not knocking Samplitude at all, just simply saying it is out of my price range. I'd love to give it a shot, and Cubase for that matter, or I would have happily upgraded Live if I had the cash. I'm poor, what more can I say? Reaper was a very happy find for me, you can't deny the value of a $60 full-featured DAW, quirks and all.

It is very easy to throw around your hate on the web, call people 'fanboys' and miss the point that being an 'anti-fan' is a pretty frickin lame-ass attitude to have as well. Get over it already.

[SJ_Digriz]

The most CPU efficient host is the host that is well understood by the user, configured properly on a system on which it runs well, that supports the particular work habits of the person using it. Anything else is inefficient.