How do you make your beats?

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Microtonic
Drumaxx
RM IV
Waldorf Attack
Alchemy
Single Shot samples in FL Studio channel sampler/FPC
Recording Slim Phatty or field recorder sounds, or just resampling whatever and sequencing it with FL Slicex.
Mouse programming or playing with a Korg Pad Kontrol.

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Like I make love: Slow but hard!

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buttrock wrote:Like I make love: Slow but hard!
No tempos over 90 bpm? I.e. just ballads, slow walze and similar? H.

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Harry_HH wrote:
buttrock wrote:Like I make love: Slow but hard!
No tempos over 90 bpm? I.e. just ballads, slow walze and similar? H.
Or Ambient, Industrial, Experimental, ... etc.
Lots of things can be made with slow tempos.

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T-CM11 wrote:
Harry_HH wrote:
buttrock wrote:Like I make love: Slow but hard!
No tempos over 90 bpm? I.e. just ballads, slow walze and similar? H.
Or Ambient, Industrial, Experimental, ... etc.
Lots of things can be made with slow tempos.
Yes, that was my "similar" ;-)
But the challenge is that many bandmates (and even yourself) want it more uptempo sometimes, at least just for change, according to my experience.
But maybe this "slow" concerns just the process, not the tempo. H.

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I was just being silly.
Actually I use Geist, Flstudio's Sequencer or I put the Samples directly on Audiotracks and arrange things there. I have some Samplepacks from Wave Alchemy,Goldbaby and Driven Machine Drums. 80 to 140 Bpm most of the time. Genres: mostly Dubstep and some "experimental" Techno/House, Witchhouse, instrumental HipHop ....

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gtg605 wrote:At the risk of being seen as a troll I dare this: ;-)
I use my fingers. I load drum sounds and play them with my fingers on the keyboard.Is that weird?
I was beginning to think I was the last one on Earth to do this. No offence meant to anyone, but - quite honestly - I find it totally depressing that a question like that only finds as answers a list of programs and methods (not to mention loops), and not a single "musical" answer. Not one. Just my point of view.

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Mac of BIOnighT wrote: I was beginning to think I was the last one on Earth to do this. No offence meant to anyone, but - quite honestly - I find it totally depressing that a question like that only finds as answers a list of programs and methods (not to mention loops), and not a single "musical" answer. Not one. Just my point of view.
theres nothing more "musical" about triggering drum sounds on a keyboard than
triggering loops off one.

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Instead of launching a debate on the "musicality" of premade drums vs making your own, let's continue on OP's path.

OR we could talk about "flexibility" and "originality"
unlike the term "musical" it's a little more concrete, making your own beats is far more flexible, and often more original. It certainly takes some practice, but I can now convincingly drum with my fingers and pads.

(much better than i can with a kit :lol: )
I run a netlabel http://oligopolistrecords.bandcamp.com
Free chill, hip-hop, lo-fi, ambient, experimental, for you! (Send me demos too!)

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knobs wrote: theres nothing more "musical" about triggering drum sounds on a keyboard than
triggering loops off one.
there's nothing more "musical" about triggering string vibrations on a piano keyboard while composing than pressing the play button on a CD player. Sure.

In any case, that's not at all what I meant. What I meant is that I found in these answers - like I do, quite honestly, in most of what kids do today (yes, I'm getting old and grumpy, and so what?) - way too much technicality and technology and didn't feel any emotional response in them (with all due exceptions). But obviously my comment was taken as a technical/technological criticism, which actually confirms my opinion.

Anyway, everybody's free to do whatever they want as long as they feel good about it and it doesn't hurt anybody unnecessarily. And music is a different thing to everybody anyway.
Peace.

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quayquay17 wrote:we could talk about "flexibility" and "originality"
Exactly. That and more.

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Mac of BIOnighT wrote:
gtg605 wrote:At the risk of being seen as a troll I dare this: ;-)
I use my fingers. I load drum sounds and play them with my fingers on the keyboard.Is that weird?
I was beginning to think I was the last one on Earth to do this. No offence meant to anyone, but - quite honestly - I find it totally depressing that a question like that only finds as answers a list of programs and methods (not to mention loops), and not a single "musical" answer. Not one. Just my point of view.
i didn't answer the question in this fashion as I interpreted his question as "what do you make beats with?" didn't even cross my mind really. I roll my own beats too for the most part. i occasionally use premade loops as a part of the whole, but generally I will create my own loops with the software I listed, or I will load samples (some I make, some are found, some are purchased) into EXS24 and either play or program beats. generally I will play acoustic sounding beats, and program electronic stuff.

used to dread making beats before I actually sat down and started working on it. now it's one of the most fun parts of the project.
macbook pro 2.88 GHz Intel Core Duo, 10 gigs ram, 750GB HD, Logic Studio 9
my blog and some music:
http://rabbitearsmotel.wordpress.com/

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Mac of BIOnighT wrote:
quayquay17 wrote:we could talk about "flexibility" and "originality"
Exactly. That and more.
See my last post on the page 2.
I don't see function of this thread at all defining what is "wrong" or "false", "more musical" etc. We have nowdays so many different option in creating drum track (which is good) that combination of different methods is most typical. The end result is always what counts. I was mainly interested in knowing about the workflows and latest tools, without thinkigns that some method is "better" than the other (The role of the drums/rhythm depends also very much of the music genre. I have to say that if you look back e.g. 30 years, I think that the option of diffrent tools creating the rhytm track is increased much more than the quality of end result. H.

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I agree on the fact that the question was more about the tools than anything, so my reaction might seem out of place, and maybe it is.
But it was motivated by:
Harry_HH wrote:I have to say that if you look back e.g. 30 years, I think that the option of different tools creating the rhythm track is increased much more than the quality of end result.
That, basically. Only, in my opinion, that goes for music in general. Whenever I talk with an electronic musician (especially a young one) and get him talking about his own music, all I get is a list of programs, methods and tools. I never (never!) hear anything about his purposes and emotional needs, I never hear about an emotion or an experience that pushed him into creating a certain piece of music or anything. All I get is his software and tools, nothing deep, nothing higher, nothing. It's the tools that use him, not the other way round as it should be. It's like talking to a factory machine, whose only purpose is churning out and endless stream of pieces the way others programmed it to and as similar as possible to all other machines'.

Therefore, I'm at the point that whenever I see a list of tools, I get this allergic reaction, some days worse than others. Yesterday it was worse.

So please do ignore my rants and answer the OP's question, I'll take my complaints about the world out in the sun that we finally have today.

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Ummm...recording my own drums :hihi: :hihi:
Barry
If a billion people believe a stupid thing it is still a stupid thing

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