New UAD 1176 collection

[heffus]

They've redone the 1176, but only for UAD-2
http://www.uaudio.com/store/compressors ... ction.html

[jkleban]

Yup and they sound GREAT... much improved over the old 1176LN that was part of the UAD collection... if you own the 1176, you get the new collection of three models for 50% off.

Jim

[maxxxter]

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[electro]

Meh.

Am I the only one who thinks 1176 compressors, in general, sound like crap?

yes

[kmonkey]

Meh.

Am I the only one who thinks 1176 compressors, in general, sound like crap?

WTF?

1176LN is great for 909 or 808 drums? What are you talking? What sort of electronic music you do? Random ambient drones?

[maxxxter]

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[Tubeman]

Those breaks you use are most probably already compressed with 1176LN.

[JD Gaffe]

I'm sorry, you could be right as I don't use 909 and 808 drums (except a 909 open hat ocassionally); I find these beatboxes to be be quite, erm, passé. It is 2012 after all.

Most kicks are derived from either a 909 or 808 kick, especially house music.

[maxxxter]

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[rhythmtechnologies]

I like my beats firm, tight, fat and pristine

which is exactly what the 1176 is known for. just back off on the attack and set a fairly fast release and you'll get a snare with a crack that would take your head off.

[JD Gaffe]

Perhaps, but not the ones I use; I mostly use drumsynths or samples, layer them and combine into new sounds, then compress, eq etc.

Yes, I know, every House artist does this. I think you're taking 808 and 909 too literally, meaning sampled directly from the original drum machines.

[bmanic]

1176 is a very good compressor for a number of reasons. It's main forté is to basically "stabilize" any signal you throw at it. It simply stays put and gets squashed. This is why it's so popular on any kind of percussion. It's also why it's so popular on rock vocals and bass. Many people even add several 1176's in series (it's kind of a "secret" trick from way back then).

You can also use the 1176 to add a snap to basically any signal by opening up the attack and keeping the release short. It can be pretty brutal. Sometimes you need to run a signal through a LA-2A type compressor before the 1176 to counter the hard knee at higher ratios so that you get more predictable results.

In this day and age of plugins you can accomplish the same thing with a lot of very different methods. I've often found myself using Voxengo Elephant for peak suppression (especially the weird clip mode it has). It works extremely well but can't add the "snap" that you get from the 1176.

The combination of LA-2A and 1176 gives you an incredibly versatile yet easy to use setup which can usually take care of 99% of whatever compression duties you have. They are not "magic" boxes but rather extremely good tools to get from point A to point B.

Lets hope IK Multimedia improves their models a bit now that they are the only ones who haven't modeled the complex parts of the 1176. Softube/Native Instruments, Waves and now UA have all modeled the actual transformers and such. Only IK Multimedia stand alone in only modeling the actual compression.

Cheers!
bManic

[bduffy]

I'm excited to try these new models, but I can't help but feel slightly betrayed, as the model they've been touting for years (and bought not too long ago!) gets shoved aside.

But I'm not surprised, this new version seems to address all the gripes (attacks time, circuit modeling) the critics had. Glad they at least offer a discount for us 1176 owners.

[kmonkey]

1176LN is great for 909 or 808 drums? What are you talking? What sort of electronic music you do? Random ambient drones?

I'm sorry, you could be right as I don't use 909 and 808 drums (except a 909 open hat ocassionally); I find these beatboxes to be be quite, erm, passé. It is 2012 after all.

I'm making house music, sometimes breaks. The majority of other compressors I tried sound better on dance-type drums, at least to my ears.

If something is good to your ears then it is good. End of story.Literally. It's your taste and it's all that is important for you in your creative process - imho.

Regarding your year sentence - yes it is 2012 and people around you still want that perfect 808 and 909 emu and they still did not get it. Last time i checked (yesterday i think) there was several hardware drum machines released in last decade, some are romplers some are digital yet all of them share 808 or 909 dominant bass drum synthesis design and digital hardware romplers still bundle 909 and 808 samples. I can not count on one hand which machine wanted to be somewhat different and unique (maybe dynacord add one)

Also i did not see anything new in 2012 or whatever the year is which should be taken as something revolutionary gfor house or any other genre. You do realize that all samples you use are mostly overcompressed and tuned crap which initially came from two machines i mentioned? Obviously your fav sample vendor won't admit it but some will do.

Are you sure you are doing house music? Ok this joke is maybe looking to much filled with irony and after all i bet that you want to sound unique so you are mostly developing your own stuff. Good luck with it seriously. But remember if you look for superb snappy drums look for uad comps.

[@midnight]

But remember if you look for superb snappy drums look for uad comps.

I still prefer the Waves compressors