Q: Are the anlog modeled filters of Saurus available in any other software synthesizer?
A: No, since we use a new and completely different approach than competing companies (like U-he) did. Our filters need low CPU, support self-osc, asymetric non-linearity (a k2 characteristic which is similar to the MS-20 filter) and have a very high precision.
Q: Does it need much CPU?
A: No. On our I7 test system we were able to run 40 instances with different patches at the same time without getting audio dropouts. Since we know that good performance is important for our cutomers we have taken a lot of effort in keeping the CPU as los possible without loosing sound quality.
Tone2 Saurus Teaser - Competition - KVR Giveaway
- KVRAF
- 14436 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Planet Earth, Somewhere
and also this link
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- KVRAF
- 4585 posts since 2 Nov, 2006
I think this is another argument. The polemic was about the competitors and CPU usagezvenx wrote:is referring to which approach recently discussed on kvr?
BTW any discussion in this direction (regardless what the official FAQ really means) it's totally useless from my point of view. While working on betatesting/sound design I never seen any comment or comparison about Diva or other synths (that's why I think there is no intention to point the finger).
Obiouvsly it's fine that users want to make a comparison, but I think that any polemic must be left behind.
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- KVRAF
- 4585 posts since 2 Nov, 2006
Ingonator wrote:The discussion about Saurus and Diva was leading me into a Google search and this was the result:
http://www.divasaurus.com/
Ingo
Divasaurus wrote:Let's throw some shit at the wall and see what sticks...
- KVRAF
- 5234 posts since 25 Feb, 2008
EDIT: and in another post...zvenx wrote:Q: Does it need much CPU?
A: No. On our I7 test system we were able to run 40 instances with different patches at the same time without getting audio dropouts.
-Q: Does it need much CPU?
A: No. Unlike competing products we have taken a lot of effort to keep the CPU as low as possible without lowering the sound quality.
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- KVRAF
- 4585 posts since 2 Nov, 2006
Maybe has been edited to try to avoid all this useless chatting?hakey wrote:Note that that post originally read:zvenx wrote:Q: Does it need much CPU?
A: No. On our I7 test system we were able to run 40 instances with different patches at the same time without getting audio dropouts.
(btw, no indication in the original post to show that it has been editedQ: Does it need much CPU?
A: No. Unlike competing products we have taken a lot of effort to keep the CPU as low as possible without lowering the sound quality.)
- KVRAF
- 14436 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Planet Earth, Somewhere
are you sure you quoting the same link as I am.. I posted my link
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 40#4842240
where I got it from less than five minutes ago.....
rsp
edit: although I do recall reading what you quoted at some point.....
rsp
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 40#4842240
where I got it from less than five minutes ago.....
rsp
edit: although I do recall reading what you quoted at some point.....
rsp
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- KVRAF
- 12522 posts since 21 Mar, 2008 from Hannover, Germany
The filter Drive in Saurus is not too bad but my favorite filter drives are the ones included in the Moog Slim Phatty (where it is called "filter overload") and the Waldorf Blofeld as hardware synths and the one in Waldorf Largo. I have just done a new preset in Largo which only works with using a certain filter drive curve and it sounds totally different without the drive.filter303 wrote: Filter drive is horrible horrible. It sounds so muddy that I can't stand it.
I have bunch of cheap guitar pedals that sound way better than this.
They are more noisy but the sound has character. Using the filter drive actually weakens the sound, which is not what I expect from analog overdrive.
Nice overdrive is what I really prefer for fat lead sounds.
My favorite external Drive plugin is the Schwa Oligarc Drive from the Schwa Oligarc bundle.
Ingo
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Win 10 Home 64-bit / mobile i7-7700HQ 2.8 GHz / 16GB RAM //
Live 10 Suite / Cubase Pro 9.5 / Pro Tools Ultimate 2021 // NI Komplete Kontrol S61 Mk1
- KVRAF
- 5234 posts since 25 Feb, 2008
Edit: sorry different posts -zvenx wrote:are you sure you quoting the same link as I am.. I posted my link
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 40#4842240
where I got it from less than five minutes ago.....
rsp
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 89#4839589
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- KVRAF
- 14436 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Planet Earth, Somewhere
hakey wrote:You quoted the original here:zvenx wrote:are you sure you quoting the same link as I am.. I posted my link
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 40#4842240
where I got it from less than five minutes ago.....
rsp
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 22#4875022
ahh I think it's two different posts from markus:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 89#4839589
and
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 40#4842240
rsp
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- KVRAF
- 2973 posts since 10 Sep, 2003 from Karlskoga, Stockholm, Sweden
No one think the modulation matrix is a bit claustrophobic? I would love some rightclicking on a controller to assign it to a modulation source..
For ten minutes (well, seven, as i had to find some kind of init preset) i had a fun time figuring the synth out. Then it died. I will try it again when initialize works and the demo lasts longer. No point demoing a synth if you get pissed off
So come on! Chug some pills and let the paranoia go!

For ten minutes (well, seven, as i had to find some kind of init preset) i had a fun time figuring the synth out. Then it died. I will try it again when initialize works and the demo lasts longer. No point demoing a synth if you get pissed off
So come on! Chug some pills and let the paranoia go!
- KVRAF
- 14436 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Planet Earth, Somewhere
I hope no one is thinking I am anti-Saurus or that I am hoping it doesn't succeeds....I have always had a great relationship with Tone2, and own licenses for Gladiator 2, ElectraX and a few of their fx....
I do wish Saurus and Tone2 well, was just stating my opinion...
It does really deliver low cpu, but it sounds nothing like Diva, which may be either a good or bad thing, and probably intentional as well....It just wasn't what I was expecting based on my own interpretation of how it was described...... who knows, maybe in a few days/weeks I may love it for what it is, not what I hoped it would be, and buy it.
rsp
I do wish Saurus and Tone2 well, was just stating my opinion...
It does really deliver low cpu, but it sounds nothing like Diva, which may be either a good or bad thing, and probably intentional as well....It just wasn't what I was expecting based on my own interpretation of how it was described...... who knows, maybe in a few days/weeks I may love it for what it is, not what I hoped it would be, and buy it.
rsp
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- KVRAF
- 5234 posts since 25 Feb, 2008
Yep, just spotted it and edited my posts.zvenx wrote:it's two different posts
Still, that "unlike competing products" statement is a hostage to fortune and absolutely invites comparisons with "competing products", whichever they are.
- KVRAF
- 26937 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
The only reason the 'useless chatter' continues is because you are unable to admit you were wrong and that Tone2 did reference Diva... which of course is absurdly silly cause there is nothing wrong or controversial in Tone2 making the comparison... but hey, if you want to keep it going by continuing to claim there was no Diva reference, I'll be happy to keep replying as wellMaxSynths wrote:
Maybe has been edited to try to avoid all this useless chatting?
