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MaxSynths · Post by **MaxSynths** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:29 pm

The sequencer in Crisalys can play as polyphonic by layering different arps

braj · Post by **braj** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:03 pm

MaxSynths wrote:The sequencer in Crisalys can play as polyphonic by layering different arps

I could get zero sound out of that on my laptop in Reaper

MaxSynths · Post by **MaxSynths** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:05 pm

braj wrote:
MaxSynths wrote:The sequencer in Crisalys can play as polyphonic by layering different arps

I could get zero sound out of that on my laptop in Reaper

Mmm? Wait I'm downloading Reaper and I'll give it a try...

braj · Post by **braj** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:10 pm

MaxSynths wrote:
braj wrote:
MaxSynths wrote:The sequencer in Crisalys can play as polyphonic by layering different arps

I could get zero sound out of that on my laptop in Reaper
Mmm? Wait I'm downloading Reaper and I'll give it a try...

Cool

I don't have an external KB, only using Reaper's virtual one on the lappy. Maybe that is the problem?

MaxSynths · Post by **MaxSynths** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:24 pm

braj wrote:Cool I don't have an external KB, only using Reaper's virtual one on the lappy. Maybe that is the problem?

No, I've tried with both external MIDI and virtual keyboard with the latest Reaper release and is working fine here!

Is every other synth working fine?

EDIT: please be sure to copy the "Crisalys_DEMO" folder from the archive in your VSTplugins folder. Does this solve the problem?

braj · Post by **braj** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:38 pm

MaxSynths wrote:
braj wrote:Cool I don't have an external KB, only using Reaper's virtual one on the lappy. Maybe that is the problem?
No, I've tried with both external MIDI and virtual keyboard with the latest Reaper release and is working fine here!

Is every other synth working fine?

EDIT: please be sure to copy the "Crisalys_DEMO" folder from the archive in your VSTplugins folder. Does this solve the problem?

I relaunched Reaper and it is fine now, not sure what was going on. I'm a little confused how the sequencer works, can you explain?

braj · Post by **braj** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:41 pm

Ug, sound stopped again, I don't know what the issue is. All other synths work fine. It was open just a couple minutes, does it time-out?

MaxSynths · Post by **MaxSynths** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:48 pm

braj wrote:I'm a little confused how the sequencer works, can you explain?

Please take a look at the included manual. I think everything is explained there (the manual includes pictures so I think it's easy to understand how the sequencer(s) works by reading the description in the manual). BTW feel free to ask if you have any specific question

braj wrote:Ug, sound stopped again, I don't know what the issue is. All other synths work fine. It was open just a couple minutes, does it time-out?

No the demo is fully functional with random noise. Maybe it's a drop out problem caused by hi CPU usage. Crisalys could be very demanding on CPU!

braj · Post by **braj** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:52 pm

Yeah this laptop is not exactly a CPU performance champ

musikmachine · Post by **musikmachine** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:00 pm

braj wrote:
musikmachine wrote:
braj wrote:Yeah Vortex is cool, but not doing the same thing, though maybe you can make it with some fiddling. Pattern Arp is really cool because you can just finger part of your sequence and it will play maybe just the bass, or just the melody, or bass as melody, or chords higher, or lower, so many variations you can do in real time, improvising based on one set pattern, so you maintain a constant feel but with huge variety, I can't recommend this thing enough, it is very very nifty. I really play more than I record, and all these arps I fiddle with are really for that.

One thing you should know about Pattern Arp Plus, it doesn't work when the sequencer isn't playing (unlike most arps). So you won't hear anything unless the sequencer is running and there is some midi input.
You can do that with Vortex sans chords just by routing all the sequences to the same instrument then trigger them as you want. Andys working on some stuff with sub sequencers and pattern chaining so it should get better in that respect. Atm it's better for short musical phrases although you can get lots of variation with the pitch triggers and performance controls.
Yeah I wish I had the $70 to get it before the sale ends, though it isn't the highest sort of priority for me. I'm playing with the demo though and it looks really unique.

Yeah it's multitimbral midi out so you can use it in a few different ways. The dev is really responsive to FRs as well. it's evolved quite a bit since the first beta and it's still in RC stage so probably worth keeping an eye on.

braj · Post by **braj** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:56 pm

Well Pattern Arp Plus doesn't work in Studio One, I can rewire Reaper to use it but that is very clumbsy and I still have to save the midi file and manually import to Studio One>

Does anyone know of anything that works the same way, and/or any developers care to take this on?

I would love to have this sort of arp integrated into my DAW.

munchkin · Post by **munchkin** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:16 am

braj wrote:Well Pattern Arp Plus doesn't work in Studio One, I can rewire Reaper to use it but that is very clumbsy and I still have to save the midi file and manually import to Studio One>

Does anyone know of anything that works the same way, and/or any developers care to take this on? I would love to have this sort of arp integrated into my DAW.

I can't get it to work in Reaper either. I also tired Vortex which crashed Reaper and then wouldn't close.

braj · Post by **braj** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:20 am

munchkin wrote:
braj wrote:Well Pattern Arp Plus doesn't work in Studio One, I can rewire Reaper to use it but that is very clumbsy and I still have to save the midi file and manually import to Studio One>

Does anyone know of anything that works the same way, and/or any developers care to take this on? I would love to have this sort of arp integrated into my DAW.
I can't get it to work in Reaper either. I also tired Vortex which crashed Reaper and then wouldn't close.

It is a little bit confusing getting started, are you clicking the little clock icon (it won't auto-run without that) and then the 'on' button (not the 'on' button of the far right, the once near the middle). Are you using the demo or full version? Once that is set you just finger chords, first in plays the top arp line, second the second, etc. So you can play any note first, high, low or whatever. With one simple pattern and different fingering you can get really dynamic results that sound nothing like a conventional arp. It is really really cool. I never got the demo to work before I ended up just buying it and hoping for the best and I'm glad I did. Just now it doesn't work in Studio One, and rewiring is not so fun for my workflow.

braj · Post by **braj** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:21 am

The clock icon it to the right of 'rate' in the play section, I didn't even consider clicking it for the longest time.

munchkin · Post by **munchkin** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:43 am

braj wrote:
munchkin wrote:
braj wrote:Well Pattern Arp Plus doesn't work in Studio One, I can rewire Reaper to use it but that is very clumbsy and I still have to save the midi file and manually import to Studio One>

Does anyone know of anything that works the same way, and/or any developers care to take this on? I would love to have this sort of arp integrated into my DAW.
I can't get it to work in Reaper either. I also tired Vortex which crashed Reaper and then wouldn't close.
It is a little bit confusing getting started, are you clicking the little clock icon (it won't auto-run without that) and then the 'on' button (not the 'on' button of the far right, the once near the middle). Are you using the demo or full version? Once that is set you just finger chords, first in plays the top arp line, second the second, etc. So you can play any note first, high, low or whatever. With one simple pattern and different fingering you can get really dynamic results that sound nothing like a conventional arp. It is really really cool. I never got the demo to work before I ended up just buying it and hoping for the best and I'm glad I did. Just now it doesn't work in Studio One, and rewiring is not so fun for my workflow.

Thanks for the advice. I'm trying the demo which doesn't seem to trigger any of the synths I route it to in Reaper. I have Alchemy on one track and then this arp (as a vsti) on another. Sending arp to Alchemy - should trigger sounds in Alchemy. It makes some beeping noises but won't play any of the patches in Alchemy. Midi send/receive in Reaper set to "all". Arp midi set to 1.

I'm able to trigger Alchemy using a midi file on the arp track so the send is working ok - just not the arp.

Anything else like PAttern Arp Plus?