KVR Audio

kpd · Post by **kpd** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:55 am

C-note wrote:Just read the April edition of Sound On sound ....

Kraznet · Post by **Kraznet** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:01 am

Nowt is stuck on Master Bus:

egbert · Post by **egbert** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:15 am

ENV1 wrote:Ridiculous statement.

Everyone knows that 1s and 0s dont have any tonal properties.

I've always found that 0s sound a little hollow while 1s tend to have a woody tone. But then again, I do have golden ears.

sfernald · Post by **sfernald** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:32 am

Man, I am demoing Samplitude Pro X (because of that SoS review) and I got to say I like it better than the other DAWs I own.

I own:

Cubase 6.5 (greatest breadth)
Reason 6 (most fun)
Studio One V2 (easiest and fastest)

In many ways Samplitude kicks their collective butts. It has that feel of a professional app that has been used by professionals and constantly refined for dozens of years (like 3DS Max, if you are familiar with 3d modeling programs). It just sort of makes sense and makes things simple that other DAWs have kind of screwed up (but I had no idea they screwed up because I had never tried this DAW before). For example, it's got the best scrolling/scaling timeline functionality I've seen. Makes it so easy to keep my work in view and focused on what I want to see. A lot of features I liked before in other DAWs now seem half implemented by comparison. It is quirky though.

Anyway, definitely give it a try if you're interested. I have done several remixes and by using objects I can do in one track what would take me a dozen in other DAWs. Super awesome for remixing I've found. This is the DAW I think people are using to actually get work done!

jazzimprov · Post by **jazzimprov** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:54 pm

All X and 0 jokes aside, I am too very impressed with the Samp Demo.

Agree with all points taken...

Samplitude is definately a professional class act,

You are missing something if you do not sample Samplitude.

I ditched Cubase a while back and went to Sonar X1 and Studio 1 v2 (upgraded)but.....
I may make a permanent switch to Samp soon!

.....and yes it does sound crystal clear to me -- call it the placibo effect, but that is what I hear.

Jim

cyphersuit · Post by **cyphersuit** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:38 pm

I am using x1 but the audio engine seems buggy. Now i want to either move to samplitude pro or studio one version 2.

Are there any comparisons on the web? Which one handles midi better?

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:57 pm

remember they dropped the prices and there is a great crossgrade deal

koolkeys · Post by **koolkeys** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:31 pm

cyphersuit wrote:I am using x1 but the audio engine seems buggy. Now i want to either move to samplitude pro or studio one version 2.

Are there any comparisons on the web? Which one handles midi better?

Studio One, while it's MIDI is well-implemented, is still behind Samplitude in terms of pure features.

Of course, both, IMO, are a step down from the X1 MIDI, but Samplitude is the closer of the two. You won't get things like inline MIDI or the mouse tool customization and several other editing features, but for the general MIDI feature set for general editing, staff, etc. Samplitude is fine.

Brent

koolkeys · Post by **koolkeys** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:35 pm

Oh, and of course Samplitude sounds better*. If it didn't, we wouldn't have all these fun threads about basic math.

Brent

*no, of course it doesn't

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:02 pm

koolkeys wrote:
cyphersuit wrote:I am using x1 but the audio engine seems buggy. Now i want to either move to samplitude pro or studio one version 2.

Are there any comparisons on the web? Which one handles midi better?
Studio One, while it's MIDI is well-implemented, is still behind Samplitude in terms of pure features.

Of course, both, IMO, are a step down from the X1 MIDI, but Samplitude is the closer of the two. You won't get things like inline MIDI or the mouse tool customization and several other editing features, but for the general MIDI feature set for general editing, staff, etc. Samplitude is fine.

Brent

I think "fine" is an understatement...of course it's all about workflow and if you do not like the object based model of samp then

The OE has been updated in Pro X and some minor improvements to the midi editor/score that change a lot. They also made things dockable which is pretty cool...my new machine came with the sonar lite or whatever it's called...I like the instruments the most but being use to Samp I cant get down with it as a host right now, but again that is just workflow.

koolkeys · Post by **koolkeys** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:19 pm

Hink wrote:
koolkeys wrote:
cyphersuit wrote:I am using x1 but the audio engine seems buggy. Now i want to either move to samplitude pro or studio one version 2.

Are there any comparisons on the web? Which one handles midi better?
Studio One, while it's MIDI is well-implemented, is still behind Samplitude in terms of pure features.

Of course, both, IMO, are a step down from the X1 MIDI, but Samplitude is the closer of the two. You won't get things like inline MIDI or the mouse tool customization and several other editing features, but for the general MIDI feature set for general editing, staff, etc. Samplitude is fine.

Brent
I think "fine" is an understatement...of course it's all about workflow and if you do not like the object based model of samp then The OE has been updated in Pro X and some minor improvements to the midi editor/score that change a lot. They also made things dockable which is pretty cool...my new machine came with the sonar lite or whatever it's called...I like the instruments the most but being use to Samp I cant get down with it as a host right now, but again that is just workflow.

"Fine" just just a figure of speech to say that he should be fine going to Samplitude MIDI from X1. Not sure why it seems like a slight on Samplitude.

I'm familiar with the Pro X changes. And I don't even use X1 as a primary host any more.

Sure, I don't think Samplitude is the best in the workflow/feature department for me due to various reasons that are out of place in this thread, but I wasn't criticizing Samplitude in that post.

Brent

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:37 pm

koolkeys wrote:
Hink wrote:
koolkeys wrote:
cyphersuit wrote:I am using x1 but the audio engine seems buggy. Now i want to either move to samplitude pro or studio one version 2.

Are there any comparisons on the web? Which one handles midi better?
Studio One, while it's MIDI is well-implemented, is still behind Samplitude in terms of pure features.

Of course, both, IMO, are a step down from the X1 MIDI, but Samplitude is the closer of the two. You won't get things like inline MIDI or the mouse tool customization and several other editing features, but for the general MIDI feature set for general editing, staff, etc. Samplitude is fine.

Brent
I think "fine" is an understatement...of course it's all about workflow and if you do not like the object based model of samp then The OE has been updated in Pro X and some minor improvements to the midi editor/score that change a lot. They also made things dockable which is pretty cool...my new machine came with the sonar lite or whatever it's called...I like the instruments the most but being use to Samp I cant get down with it as a host right now, but again that is just workflow.
"Fine" just just a figure of speech to say that he should be fine going to Samplitude MIDI from X1. Not sure why it seems like a slight on Samplitude.

variations of language by region? To me fine means average, adequate and a term that denotes weaker than expected, so I believe that to be an understatement. I'm not saying you were dissing samplitude, I not playing that game, but just as you would do for for your host de jour I believe as a loyal samplitude user and someone who has now had a lot of experience with samplitude it's only fair I clarify the point for others who might be considering samp with it's new pricing scheme, I am sure others look at a word like "fine" as I do.

What I dont get is why you would take exception with my clarifying that...but to be honest I really I do not care...it's a free country and my right to do so...so once again imo fine is an understatement...if you disagree that's cool

koolkeys · Post by **koolkeys** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:42 pm

Hink wrote:
koolkeys wrote:
Hink wrote:
koolkeys wrote:
cyphersuit wrote:I am using x1 but the audio engine seems buggy. Now i want to either move to samplitude pro or studio one version 2.

Are there any comparisons on the web? Which one handles midi better?
Studio One, while it's MIDI is well-implemented, is still behind Samplitude in terms of pure features.

Of course, both, IMO, are a step down from the X1 MIDI, but Samplitude is the closer of the two. You won't get things like inline MIDI or the mouse tool customization and several other editing features, but for the general MIDI feature set for general editing, staff, etc. Samplitude is fine.

Brent
I think "fine" is an understatement...of course it's all about workflow and if you do not like the object based model of samp then The OE has been updated in Pro X and some minor improvements to the midi editor/score that change a lot. They also made things dockable which is pretty cool...my new machine came with the sonar lite or whatever it's called...I like the instruments the most but being use to Samp I cant get down with it as a host right now, but again that is just workflow.
"Fine" just just a figure of speech to say that he should be fine going to Samplitude MIDI from X1. Not sure why it seems like a slight on Samplitude.
variations of language by region? To me fine means average, adequate and a term that denotes weaker than expected, so I believe that to be an understatement. I'm not saying you were dissing samplitude, I not playing that game, but just as you would do for for your host de jour I believe as a loyal samplitude user and someone who has now had a lot of experience with samplitude it's only fair I clarify the point for others who might be considering samp with it's new pricing scheme, I am sure others look at a word like "fine" as I do.

What I dont get is why you would take exception with my clarifying that...but to be honest I really I do not care...it's a free country and my right to do so...so once again imo fine is an understatement...if you disagree that's cool

*sigh*

I still keep my wording the same. You're definitely overthinking it. Not sure that I really care to argue over something so silly.

Brent

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:45 pm

koolkeys wrote:
Hink wrote:
koolkeys wrote:
Hink wrote:
koolkeys wrote:
cyphersuit wrote:I am using x1 but the audio engine seems buggy. Now i want to either move to samplitude pro or studio one version 2.

Are there any comparisons on the web? Which one handles midi better?
Studio One, while it's MIDI is well-implemented, is still behind Samplitude in terms of pure features.

Of course, both, IMO, are a step down from the X1 MIDI, but Samplitude is the closer of the two. You won't get things like inline MIDI or the mouse tool customization and several other editing features, but for the general MIDI feature set for general editing, staff, etc. Samplitude is fine.

Brent
I think "fine" is an understatement...of course it's all about workflow and if you do not like the object based model of samp then The OE has been updated in Pro X and some minor improvements to the midi editor/score that change a lot. They also made things dockable which is pretty cool...my new machine came with the sonar lite or whatever it's called...I like the instruments the most but being use to Samp I cant get down with it as a host right now, but again that is just workflow.
"Fine" just just a figure of speech to say that he should be fine going to Samplitude MIDI from X1. Not sure why it seems like a slight on Samplitude.
variations of language by region? To me fine means average, adequate and a term that denotes weaker than expected, so I believe that to be an understatement. I'm not saying you were dissing samplitude, I not playing that game, but just as you would do for for your host de jour I believe as a loyal samplitude user and someone who has now had a lot of experience with samplitude it's only fair I clarify the point for others who might be considering samp with it's new pricing scheme, I am sure others look at a word like "fine" as I do.

What I dont get is why you would take exception with my clarifying that...but to be honest I really I do not care...it's a free country and my right to do so...so once again imo fine is an understatement...if you disagree that's cool
*sigh*

I still keep my wording the same. You're definitely overthinking it. Not sure that I really care to argue over something so silly.

Brent

I'm not arguing and I'm overthinking it

Dean Aka Nekro · Post by **Dean Aka Nekro** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:45 pm

Pro Tools 10 is by far better than all by lightyears. Shame Avid have ruined things though with pricing me out

If you must have teh best in MIDI then use Cubase

Everything else is just a lame take on the two except Ableton's Live (but as we all know the audio engine sounds like shit)

No one ever wins, Except Charlie Sheen

Samplitude: Best sounding Daw?