Samplitude: Best sounding Daw?
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- 63 posts since 15 May, 2004 from GB
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- KVRAF
- 16977 posts since 23 Jun, 2010 from north of London ON
FL, for some, is still a toy....

Barry
If a billion people believe a stupid thing it is still a stupid thing
If a billion people believe a stupid thing it is still a stupid thing
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- Banned
- 63 posts since 15 May, 2004 from GB
it is a toy.. and a very good one that is.. and all boys love toys! (even tha ones saying they are not masturbating anymore cos they are men now!)

- KVRAF
- 14136 posts since 20 Nov, 2003 from Lost and Spaced
I think Samplitude sounds good too, but I had the LE edition and it was not fun to mixdown in that. That being said, I also think Reaper sounds great too. Ditto for the no fun to mixdown. (I don't like the midi editor, and every VST I put in it defaults to the init preset when it reloops)
.............runs and hides
.............runs and hides
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- KVRian
- 1086 posts since 17 Jun, 2012
Yeah,
Let's keep this thread going! Let me say that I don't believe that "it's just math, all DAWS sum the same. Apply same panning, levels, and it cancels when you invert the phase. Null this. Null that". This guy ain't buying it. I don't pretend to understand the intricacies but I've tried quite a few different DAWS and gotten different results using the same plugins. Not talking like they are completely different sounding plugs processed but more along the lines that the character of the final output somewhat differs. Whether it lies in the quality of the coding, method (fixed vs. floating), or how well the DAW handles phase using lots of plugins, I do hear differences. This is my findings and which DAWS I came out with the most pleasing results according to my own personal taste. Note, I don't use any stock plugins.
1) Samplitude (seemed to have a clarity and width that I had difficulty getting with others DAWS)
2) MULAB (surprised by the clarity of this, still slightly prefer Sampy)
3) Reaper (seems much like what goes in comes out but the mix seemed to sound "thinner?" than what I got with Samplitude and MULAB.
4) Pro Tools (ditto, same comments as for Reaper. Will say that the latest versions sounds 10 times better than say back in 2003, even more reason why I don't buy that they all "sound the same")
5) Cubase (didn't sound bad, but the mix seemed to have more of a compressed texture and a bit more smeared sound than Samplitude
6) Mixcraft (this is hard for me to describe but the mixes I was getting out of this sounded more plasticy)
7) Tracktion (much more muddy compared to others DAWS). In earlier versions (when it was supported), it was even acknowledged that there were some phase issues at higher sample rates.
Now that I have said that. Can somebody who has tried Presonus Studio One or SAWStudio talk about any differences in the sound quality and charcter you are hearing versus Samplitude? Not sure I want to install the demo on this computer cramped for space. But have heard claims that Presonus Studio One sound is on par with Samplitude or maybe even better? Would be curious to know. Also, same thing for SAWStudio. Had seen claims that SAW sounded better than Samplitude's earlier versions (back around version 7) but I'm using 11 and be curious how Sampy's new and improved audio engine fares. Anyways, welcoming any comments and criticisms. My guess is that I'll hear from a Reaper user first claiming there's sounds at least as good. (oh you Reaper fanboys...and your religious devotion)
Let's keep this thread going! Let me say that I don't believe that "it's just math, all DAWS sum the same. Apply same panning, levels, and it cancels when you invert the phase. Null this. Null that". This guy ain't buying it. I don't pretend to understand the intricacies but I've tried quite a few different DAWS and gotten different results using the same plugins. Not talking like they are completely different sounding plugs processed but more along the lines that the character of the final output somewhat differs. Whether it lies in the quality of the coding, method (fixed vs. floating), or how well the DAW handles phase using lots of plugins, I do hear differences. This is my findings and which DAWS I came out with the most pleasing results according to my own personal taste. Note, I don't use any stock plugins.
1) Samplitude (seemed to have a clarity and width that I had difficulty getting with others DAWS)
2) MULAB (surprised by the clarity of this, still slightly prefer Sampy)
3) Reaper (seems much like what goes in comes out but the mix seemed to sound "thinner?" than what I got with Samplitude and MULAB.
4) Pro Tools (ditto, same comments as for Reaper. Will say that the latest versions sounds 10 times better than say back in 2003, even more reason why I don't buy that they all "sound the same")
5) Cubase (didn't sound bad, but the mix seemed to have more of a compressed texture and a bit more smeared sound than Samplitude
6) Mixcraft (this is hard for me to describe but the mixes I was getting out of this sounded more plasticy)
7) Tracktion (much more muddy compared to others DAWS). In earlier versions (when it was supported), it was even acknowledged that there were some phase issues at higher sample rates.
Now that I have said that. Can somebody who has tried Presonus Studio One or SAWStudio talk about any differences in the sound quality and charcter you are hearing versus Samplitude? Not sure I want to install the demo on this computer cramped for space. But have heard claims that Presonus Studio One sound is on par with Samplitude or maybe even better? Would be curious to know. Also, same thing for SAWStudio. Had seen claims that SAW sounded better than Samplitude's earlier versions (back around version 7) but I'm using 11 and be curious how Sampy's new and improved audio engine fares. Anyways, welcoming any comments and criticisms. My guess is that I'll hear from a Reaper user first claiming there's sounds at least as good. (oh you Reaper fanboys...and your religious devotion)
- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
does froot loops have orange in there?robojam wrote:Why would we be discussing breakfast cereal?orange wrote:no fruity loops in here?
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- KVRAF
- 1670 posts since 1 Feb, 2004 from UK
Guys please all this talk of cereal is making me hungry.

- KVRAF
- 4469 posts since 15 Nov, 2006 from Hell
it is true regardless of whether or not you're "buying it". If the files null, they are the same. If they don't - then you can talk about this or that sounding different. But then again, not nulling null tests usually come from either user error or incompetence (no disrespect meant, we all are incompetent in something).AC222 wrote:Yeah,
Let's keep this thread going! Let me say that I don't believe that "it's just math, all DAWS sum the same. Apply same panning, levels, and it cancels when you invert the phase. Null this. Null that". This guy ain't buying it.
but i hope you were being sarcastic and i didn't catch that.
I don't know what to write here that won't be censored, as I can only speak in profanity.
- KVRAF
- 11162 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal
Wasn't Avid claiming the same regarding the new Pro Tools 10?hibidy wrote: for the record:
PT, live, sonar, and cubase are among those that have made the claim of better/warm/mostawsomest sounding. Nuendo is 20-40% better (well, that was the sound engine)
Fernando (FMR)
- KVRAF
- 11162 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal
Yes they dropped the prices and screwed previous Pro users in the way. For upgrade purposes, Samplitude 10 and Samplitude 10 Pro are treated the same way. How fair is it? For me, they are dead.Hink wrote:remember they dropped the prices and there is a great crossgrade deal
Fernando (FMR)
