Studio One strengths

[braj]

Oh yeah, groove tool Flapping thing doesn't even work here



yeah, now I know what you mean. I don't use it. Why? BECAUSE IT DOESN'T WORK!

I never had issues with crashing till I discovered that horrible THING!

Bitter, me? Nah......you're imagining things.

It is weird, sometimes I have to click 'apply' twice but it has been working ok lately. But again, kludgy, kind of a common theme with Reaper work-arounds. I have to say the polish of Studio One is spoiling me, I tried reaper's built-in delay today just to compare and there is no comparison. S1 has some really lovely, easy to use and integrated effects and having a common, pleasant UI convention across all of them is a huge attraction for me. I am not a pro so I can't tell the subtle differences between reverbs and delays and stuff, so even if they may be bread and butter, it tasted good to me

Koolkeys stoked the fire again I am waiting on presonus giving me a code for the crossgrade, whether I get it or not may be dependent on my mood when that arrives I am fickle.

[hibidy]

I am fickle.

You don't say..........

[braj]

hibidy, even if you can't get the groove tool to 'work' in Reaper, it is still really helpful to put the 'grab groove from selection' and 'show groove' buttons in the main toolbar (they can't be put in the midi editor toolbar for some strange reason). Then you can easily grab a groove from any bassline or drum track, and get markers for placing notes manually to fit nicely with your composition. I did this manually on occasion, adding markers manually, until I found this the other day. It is really a great help to me personally.

[braj]

I am fickle.

You don't say..........

I did say I'm like a rat that will jump ship in any nice new port I had a co-worker that called certain sports afficianodos 'fair weather fans' I guess I'm like that. I know some would like to 'go down with the ship' but I need tools that work for me, so i am trying to not build emotional attachments to DAWs and plugins. That Pattern Arp has got me enamored though that is a love story right there.

[hibidy]

I'll look into maybe. What I used to always use was "get groove" and "apply 16th/32nd) depending. But with all the crashing I've had since updating I'm trying to avoid.

[braj]

Koolkeys, sometimes I am seeing the groove grid lines in Studio One, sometimes they just show every quarter-bar, what am I missing? I want it to always show the current groove quantization grid lines. I don't see any setting for this.

EDIT: I submitted this to the Presonus forum, which explains it a bit better:

When I create a custom groove from a midi clip that I created in Studio One, it will create a nice custom grid for the pattern in the piano roll. But if I drag a midi pattern from ezdrummer or idrum to the groove area, the piano roll only shows a 1/4 note grid. The graphical groove display will reflect the dragged pattern, just not the piano roll grid, and I can apply the grid effectively and any new notes I place snap as expected to the groove. It is just a display issue, but having the grid is very very helpful for getting oriented. Am I missing some setting or is this the expected behavior? The groove function in Studio One are awesome, just I hope to get the grid to always reflect properly.

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I did figure out a work around: convert the track to audio, then drag the clip into the groove window, the groove is now set and you can convert the track back to midi. BTW being able to set the groove from audio or midi is really great, I need to buy this thing already

[filter303]

I just compared the CPU usage of Reaper4 and Studio One V2. Both Sequencers were able to run exactly 140 instances of Toneboosters Compressors @ 96khz/24bit without any dropouts.
I've always thought that Reaper is one of the most optimized DAW's out there. It seems to me that S1 is definitely on the same league in this area. Light CPU usage has been one of the main reasons why I have been sticking with Reaper. I got to do some more tests with different plugins

[LawrenceF]

Here's my macro toolbar for S1 if anyone wants it. There's a pdf help file included in the zip that explains how to replace your current one.

Custom Toolbar

P.S. There's a folder in there with icons so even if you don't want the toolbar as is, the icons may come in handy.

[LawrenceF]

...can you confirm if Melodyne as included in Studio One allows a VST plugin to be used in reaper? I'm kinds doubting that but it would be extremely cool if that were the case.

Try it. See if it shows up as an available plug in Reaper. It may not if the licence for it is just for S1.

[koolkeys]

...can you confirm if Melodyne as included in Studio One allows a VST plugin to be used in reaper? I'm kinds doubting that but it would be extremely cool if that were the case.

Try it. See if it shows up as an available plug in Reaper. It may not if the licence for it is just for S1.

Was I sleeping when I wrote this? LOL!

Brent

[koolkeys]

I just compared the CPU usage of Reaper4 and Studio One V2. Both Sequencers were able to run exactly 140 instances of Toneboosters Compressors @ 96khz/24bit without any dropouts.
I've always thought that Reaper is one of the most optimized DAW's out there. It seems to me that S1 is definitely on the same league in this area. Light CPU usage has been one of the main reasons why I have been sticking with Reaper. I got to do some more tests with different plugins

I think you'll find differing results depending on who is doing the test, but it's not the first time that Studio One had equal or better CPU usage than other hosts, including Reaper. And you'll find many people with exactly the opposite. So it's probably safe to say that Studio One, IN GENERAL, is very optimized and should perform alright on most systems.

There are always exceptions though, of course.

Brent

[LawrenceF]

...can you confirm if Melodyne as included in Studio One allows a VST plugin to be used in reaper? I'm kinds doubting that but it would be extremely cool if that were the case.

Try it. See if it shows up as an available plug in Reaper. It may not if the licence for it is just for S1.

Was I sleeping when I wrote this? LOL!

Brent

Sorry, misquote. That was our friend Braj.

[braj]

...can you confirm if Melodyne as included in Studio One allows a VST plugin to be used in reaper? I'm kinds doubting that but it would be extremely cool if that were the case.

Try it. See if it shows up as an available plug in Reaper. It may not if the licence for it is just for S1.

Well I tried it and it works in Reaper, but you download the demo from Melodyne which is actually the Editor trial so I just don't know Someone with a stock install of Studio One with just the included Essentials install could try installing Reaper for me maybe? see if it is available as a plugin? pretty please?

Regarding CPU use, when I first demo's S1 i have to say at least in my short testing it was a DOG, I don't know what the issue was or if in a couple point releases it has improved substantially, but now it seems very good CPU wise. RAM seems high though, but I don't know if that is just the way the metering works. Kontakt complained about RAM when I used it but then Trilian and one instance of Kontakt were already running. Just the meter always seems high. But Diva is running fine and that is what REALLY matters

[musikmachine]

I'm pretty sure melodyne single track shows up in other hosts but i'll check in a bit.

[braj]

I'm pretty sure melodyne single track shows up in other hosts but i'll check in a bit.

Cool, much appreciated!

Anyone know about Rewire? I don't care too much because basically I just want to use it for that arp and I can transfer the midi manually but still, the implementation seems a little crippled to me, unless I'm missing something.