KVR Audio

Spitfire31 · Post by **Spitfire31** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:18 am

renderful wrote:… Along with time-stretching and other tempo-based features, I'd like to see tempo based selectors/brushes, so we can paint and/or select 1/4 triplets and things like that.

Excellent idea! Let's keep up the pressure on our friendly iZotope project manager for time stretch and tempo/beat based features in a 1.x upgrade (update)!

/Joachim

TabSel · Post by **TabSel** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:30 am

Manipulating the spectral data in time and fre domain, linear and/or harmonics based would be cool, too, instead of just selecting spectral data for playback...

Or manipulating/moving selections/content with an lfo...

Or record playback of one oscillator or all into another...

I checked alchemy and harmor now, but they are different beasts and I might consider a purchase of Iris...

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:35 am

wow i thought time stretching is already in it.... so i guess i will really wait with purchase and/or new product, if they dont implement it and i bought it now it would be a big bummer. i think they will update till xmas and hopefully make a nice xmas sale

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:11 am

Just installed the demo. First impressions - I love the interface, especially how clean it is, the fact that you can remove all extra details and just focus on the spectral display, and that it can be resized even to almost full screen. That is something I asked for long ago for Poseidon (on the other hand Poseidon has a beautiful 4D waterfall display - something I would love Iris to have). Some of the presets are quite nice too but I would like to see more diversity. In terms of editing power it is intuitive but a bit limited in that you appear to be able to operate on the audio file by selecting and moving around various details but it doesn't look like you can draw in your own or manipulate the partials directly (unlike in Alchemy) Also the filters are very basic compared to Poseidon and the lack of multi point envelopes is a big limitation too. I do like the All view where you can manipulate the 4 audio files together but there doesn't seem to be any way to place them in any sort of temporal sequence, while their selections can be moved around the files themselves are all at the left edge. Poseidon is much better at manipulating the time domain than Iris - you can also do more complex things with the position of the play cursor in Poseidon. Seems fun to play with though.

matteogk · Post by **matteogk** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:48 pm

I'm using Iris from last night and totally agree with Simon (by the way, your "soprano sax test" video is a perfect promo for Iris): this is the real NEW THING around and it's gonna give us all a lot of surprises in the future.
It's a joy for the ears to tweak and freely create with it. THX iZotope!!

About drag and drop bug... I did not try it yet, but I prefer to create a user folder in the iZotope sample directory, so that I can save my patches and use always the same paths to get them working (think if you update to a new machine....)

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:17 pm

matteogk wrote:I'm using Iris from last night and totally agree with Simon (by the way, your "soprano sax test" video is a perfect promo for Iris): this is the real NEW THING around and it's gonna give us all a lot of surprises in the future.
It's a joy for the ears to tweak and freely create with it. THX iZotope!!

Thank's Matteo, yeah I think that video shows what it's all about...

gentleclockdivider · Post by **gentleclockdivider** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:59 pm

So this is like the long awaited instrument version of 'METASYNTH's image filter ???
4 engines ..but no ability to use separate midi chanels for each ..this means that when we want toplay each channel separately , we have to divide the keyzone into 4 zones ..meaning a limited range for each engine ., no separate outputs

2.no ability to control the volume of the selected/masked spectral content ..selections outputs the original file at full volume .., so maybe ad an opacity slider would come in handy , maybe use red , green for placement in stereo image .;like in metasynth
Limited range of tools , ability to rotate ( rectangular )horizontal/vertical selections into diagonal for rising/falling filter efects .
Also , since iris can analyze the spectral content of an audio file , why not include the ability to superimpose :apply the spectral image to a new file ...for vocoding effects .example ...ananlyze spectral content of voice ...apply this as a filter on a new file ...Like metasynth

I am on windows an yeah I like the plugin , but I have been playing with metasynth for a while now ( friends mac ) , especially the image filter which iris seems to aim at (altough metasynth is not a realtime instr. exporting samples from within metasynth and using it in renoise its a breeze ,)
I wonder if izotope would bring it to the next level and make this a real meatasynth competitor for windows ..please do

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:48 pm

Despite my first thoughts

this is shaping up to be possible. I'm trying to watch the groove 3 vids and get my head around it and there are some really good things about it.

I still don't know if I can get by this TS/tempo stuff though.

Besides, Simon has already explored all the possibilities and dunced everyone else

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:53 pm

hibidy wrote:Despite my first thoughts this is shaping up to be possible. I'm trying to watch the groove 3 vids and get my head around it and there are some really good things about it.

I still don't know if I can get by this TS/tempo stuff though.

Besides, Simon has already explored all the possibilities and dunced everyone else

so timestretch isnt possible is it?

lightsfadelow · Post by **lightsfadelow** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:55 pm

I really want the tempo sync stuff too.. but there's still the opportunity to use any sort of WAV in Iris to create new tempo-synced content using LFOs, a gate plugin, or volume automation, which is an interesting prospect.

audientronic · Post by **audientronic** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:56 pm

I would really like to see the ability to import an image.

I'd also like the ability to export the spectral data as an image so I can mess around with it in photoshop and re-import it into iris.

lightsfadelow · Post by **lightsfadelow** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:03 pm

To be clear about timestretching--Iris uses its timestretch algorithm (Radius RT) to allow it to play all notes at the original tempo of the WAV file when you turn on the feature.

By default, when you import a file that has a natural tempo of 120BPM, and you play the root it will play at normal speed (120BPM). But if you play higher or lower the play head speeds up or slows down.

However, when you turn Raidus RT on, all notes play at the same speed but the pitch is changed.

What I think Hibidy (and for sure I) want is to be able to import a 120BPM WAV and turn on a new Radius RT mode that I'll call Radius RT Tempo Synced. In that mode, if your song's metronome was 80BPM, the 120BPM file would play at 80BPM in any key. This requires tempo detection (or reading Acidized WAV properties), UI to set the native tempo of the WAV if the detection is wrong, and tying the host sync to the Radius algorithm. Probably not terribly hard, but not terribly easy. Not likely to happen before the May 4 date, but likely to happen by v2.

ariston · Post by **ariston** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:06 pm

I agree with Simon... there are quite a lot of things that Iris ISN'T, and you can dwell on that if you want to. Send some feature requests to Izotope, I'd be glad if they'd include some of the great suggestions mentioned in this thread.

HOWEVER, I've been doing sounds all day (whenever my three-week-old son lets me, that is), and this damn thing is so inspiring and so much fun... to do a lovely pad with an oboe and a harp... otherworldly soundscapes... wonky sounds... with just a few sweeps of the lasso tool... YES!

*pant*

I love it! It's the simplicity of this tool that makes it so engaging, imo.

I'm sure you've thought of this already, but in case you haven't, try this: load up a sound, isolate the obvious, relevant frequencies, and then invert it. This rather simple little operation yields some of the most interesting sounds, I've found.

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:06 pm

lightsfadelow wrote:To be clear about timestretching--Iris uses its timestretch algorithm (Radius RT) to allow it to play all notes at the original tempo of the WAV file when you turn on the feature.

By default, when you import a file that has a natural tempo of 120BPM, and you play the root it will play at normal speed (120BPM). But if you play higher or lower the play head speeds up or slows down.

However, when you turn Raidus RT on, all notes play at the same speed but the pitch is changed.

What I think Hibidy (and for sure I) want is to be able to import a 120BPM WAV and turn on a new Radius RT mode that I'll call Radius RT Tempo Synced. In that mode, if your song's metronome was 80BPM, the 120BPM file would play at 80BPM in any key. This requires tempo detection (or reading Acidized WAV properties), UI to set the native tempo of the WAV if the detection is wrong, and tying the host sync to the Radius algorithm. Probably not terribly hard, but not terribly easy. Not likely to happen before the May 4 date, but likely to happen by v2.

but it isnt possible like in Harmor that you specify the playback speed manually?

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:07 pm

Yeah. I'm used to my synths being about the TS with the host with rythmic stuff.

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