KVR Audio

geroyannis · Post by **geroyannis** » Tue May 01, 2012 10:24 pm

Xenobt wrote:And we're talking about Valhalla's Room only, right? It seems that it's three modules/algorithms fewer than CSR right off the bat. Has this been mentioned here at all?

Actually, it's seven algorithms more than CSR. Check the product page.

That been said, I've tried the demo of ValhallaRoom and liked it, but I already have EAReverb, ArtsAcoustic Reverb and CSR and they're more than enough for me.

digitalboytn · Post by **digitalboytn** » Tue May 01, 2012 10:45 pm

Xenobt wrote: And while Valhalla gets lots of props for its sound and affordability, I'll be honest about the GUI. It's big and ugly. Functional, yes. But I'd be loathe to put it up in front of my more brand conscious clients because of its appearance. Some may like the scandinavian/clean/graphic look, but I'm not among them. CSR is a beauty by any standard, and doesn't need apology when you open it up.

You should get your superficial clients to close their eyes and listen !

That's what music is really all about...

Too many people listen with their eyes and that's a little ignorant

@midnight · Post by **@midnight** » Tue May 01, 2012 11:17 pm

Actually the ValhallaRoom GUI is extremely nice looking and screams "this is made for professionals" as opposed to some other plugins which use the "let's put another virtual tube on the panel to impress the kids" methodology of GUI design.

Bronto Scorpio · Post by **Bronto Scorpio** » Tue May 01, 2012 11:21 pm

@midnight wrote:Actually the ValhallaRoom GUI is extremely nice looking and screams "this is made for professionals" as opposed to some other plugins which use the "let's put another virtual tube on the panel to impress the kids" methodology of GUI design.

Xenobt · Post by **Xenobt** » Tue May 01, 2012 11:28 pm

Some of my clients wear $300 jerseys. $150 ball caps. 3k watches. Trust me, it matters. I do this for a living, and if you don't think name brands and looks aren't a big deal, you're kidding yourself.

Having names like Neumann, Pro Tools, Focusrite, Waves, Lexicon and Genelec in my studio gets me gigs that might go elsewhere if I didn't. And those cool, faux 3d interfaces in CSR are on par with any skin out there. They look expensive.

And IK has earned a reputation that gets better with everything they release. While I'm not crazy about all the iStuff, it gets the name out there a little more, and in time that name recognition grows. I now have folks asking if I have T-Racks. And I do!

But to think I choose a verb just based on looks is mistaken. I LOVE the sound of CSRs modules and that's why I put it up.
I also love what ValhallaShimmer does, but hate its GUI too. I went to school for graphic design. I get it. I just don't like it.

And geroyannis, I did see the new stuff that's been added. It still sounds like different size rooms to me, some with names from Alien! Plates and Halls are mentioned in the copy, but not as algorithms. And Inverse isn't mentioned at all. And like you, I'm well covered with five soft verbs and a hardware Lexi 550 myself, so I'm not looking to buy another.

I'm not trashing Sean, or ValhallaAnything. Just trying to compare apples to apples, and call a room a room.

KVR/eSoundz: Xenobt

@midnight · Post by **@midnight** » Tue May 01, 2012 11:33 pm

Meh, they are all plugins. If anybody is THAT impressed by a GUI, any GUI, and thinks a drawing of a tube makes it better, then they are a bit like the proverbial monkey, the one interested in the shiny objects.

antithesist · Post by **antithesist** » Tue May 01, 2012 11:40 pm

Man, my Chicken Fried Steak Sandwich Super Model post got cut! Oh, well...

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Tue May 01, 2012 11:45 pm

Xenobt wrote:Some of my clients wear $300 jerseys. $150 ball caps. 3k watches. Trust me, it matters.

I have no watch, $10 shirts, and a target cap and even I still care.

@midnight · Post by **@midnight** » Tue May 01, 2012 11:59 pm

hibidy wrote:
Xenobt wrote:Some of my clients wear $300 jerseys. $150 ball caps. 3k watches. Trust me, it matters.
I have no watch, $10 shirts, and a target cap and even I still care.

Lol. I'm sweatpants and nothing else, and own neither.

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Wed May 02, 2012 12:03 am

I own my own tank reverb...it's called a silo....

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Wed May 02, 2012 12:14 am

trimph1 wrote:I own my own tank reverb...it's called a silo....

sample it or stfu!

Xenobt · Post by **Xenobt** » Wed May 02, 2012 12:29 am

Would silo sampling be acting on your impulses?

KVR/eSoundz: Xenobt

ObiWonder · Post by **ObiWonder** » Wed May 02, 2012 12:32 am

Soon enough you'll see what we have been doing with it and a few other plug ins. This year will be a great year for IK once the curtains are pulled back, then you'll understand. We appreciate your patience.

antithesist · Post by **antithesist** » Wed May 02, 2012 12:40 am

Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Wed May 02, 2012 1:09 am

Xenobt wrote:
Having names like Neumann, Pro Tools, Focusrite, Waves, Lexicon and Genelec in my studio gets me gigs that might go elsewhere if I didn't. And those cool, faux 3d interfaces in CSR are on par with any skin out there. They look expensive.

Some business acquaintances used to have a high end animation studio. Back at that time SGI workstations were considered top end. They had a $100,000 SGI station out front for the clients to look at and they did their work in the back on PC's...

I would much rather have a GUI that was functional for working on. The great big sliders and knobs of VRoom are so much easier to grab with the mouse when ones attention is on the sound. I find the smaller knobs and buttons of CSR (and many other GUI's) take too much attention to use in comparison. I love the simple clean uncluttered GUI with big controls.

CSR vs. Valhalla Room?