KVR Audio

Chad@PA · Post by **Chad@PA** » Thu May 03, 2012 11:46 am

Teksonik wrote:
digitalboytn wrote:
Teksonik wrote:"the Microwave uses the same wavetables from the PPG Wave 2.3"

So the obvious answer would be.........
The Pumpkin from Cakewalk
Pumpkin 2.3

Make mine a Punkin x 2.3

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Thu May 03, 2012 11:48 am

Wow that looks tasty....thanks for making me thirsty....right before I'm going to work.......

osiris · Post by **osiris** » Thu May 03, 2012 11:58 am

Massive

blacktomcat666 · Post by **blacktomcat666** » Thu May 03, 2012 12:02 pm

Wusikstation also allows wavetable synthesis with it's sample loop position modulation.

T-CM11 · Post by **T-CM11** » Thu May 03, 2012 12:03 pm

Alchemy

DevonB · Post by **DevonB** » Thu May 03, 2012 12:06 pm

EvilDragon wrote:Except Rapture is not a true wavetable (as in "PPG, Waldorf") synth.

Thank you!

I would suggest for a good read the following Wikipedia page on what Wavetable synthesis is about and other abuses of the term.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wavetable_synthesis

As a side note, did anyone emulate Ensoniq's Transwaves in the VFX/SQR/Fizmo's in a VST? Can't recall anything off the top of my head.

Devon

T-CM11 · Post by **T-CM11** » Thu May 03, 2012 12:08 pm

DevonB wrote: As a side note, did anyone emulate Ensoniq's Transwaves in the VFX/SQR/Fizmo's in a VST? Can't recall anything off the top of my head.

This one? http://www.scoreforsale.com/html/sq8l.html

blacktomcat666 · Post by **blacktomcat666** » Thu May 03, 2012 12:16 pm

T-CM11 wrote:
DevonB wrote: As a side note, did anyone emulate Ensoniq's Transwaves in the VFX/SQR/Fizmo's in a VST? Can't recall anything off the top of my head.
This one? http://www.scoreforsale.com/html/sq8l.html

No, this isn't a wavetable/transwave synth.

Lotuzia · Post by **Lotuzia** » Thu May 03, 2012 12:17 pm

SynthMaster also does WT.

As MAssive, Korg WS, all Waldorf, and ...... Vember Audio Surge. I think zero vector was also using wavetables iirc.

Gone soft · Post by **Gone soft** » Thu May 03, 2012 12:19 pm

I have so far been quite happy with Vaz Modular as it allows me to do various kinds of hybrid sounds in a modular environment (a little basic FM, throwing the wavetables in the granular oscillator and mucking about with them there, letting the wavetables modulate for instance filters, doing parallell filtering that most PPG style wavetable synth I've heard of so far wouldn't be capable of etc) but am I missing out on something that dedicated PPG style wavetable synthesis softsynths offer? Could I possibly venture deeper into the world of that kind of synthesis with something dedicated to that type of synthesis and that type only? Or should I just stick to being happy in my hybrid world? Is that quiestion even possible to answer in any kind of meaningful manner? Any opinions?

Don't mean to go offtopic (so sorry if anyone thinks I do), this seems relevant to me in a comparisasion.

bronxsound · Post by **bronxsound** » Thu May 03, 2012 12:27 pm

T-CM11 wrote:
DevonB wrote: As a side note, did anyone emulate Ensoniq's Transwaves in the VFX/SQR/Fizmo's in a VST? Can't recall anything off the top of my head.
This one? http://www.scoreforsale.com/html/sq8l.html

this one is excellent

Vectorman · Post by **Vectorman** » Thu May 03, 2012 12:51 pm

Obviously Waldorf PPG 3.V is the quickest path to Microwave-like sounds in software (definitely more so than Largo, on which the oscillators lack the grit of the PPG/MW1). I wasn't able to get perfect matches with a couple of MW1 patches I tried to duplicate, but I guess that's not surprising; one has real CEM filters while the other has a software emulation of SSM, and there are probably differences in oscillator playback rate and transposition algo's too. 3.V also lacks the MW's multi-stage wave envelope.

In addition to 3.V, my wavetable scanning workhorses are Zebra and NI Massive. Massive has a very glossy, modern sound that's great for spacey, atmospheric sweeps, metallic/plucky comping sounds, icy pads, etc. Zebra is definitely the deepest of the three. It's fun to use Waldorf-esque wavetables in Zebra, since you can get sounds that are somewhat evocative of a PPG but with way more programming possibilities. It's a cleaner, more hi-fi sound than a PPG, of course, but when using Waldorf 3.V, I have True PPG mode turned off half the time; the gritty artifacts of the PPG and Microwave can make for great crunchy basses, but it's often not so pleasing in the higher registers.

tony tony chopper · Post by **tony tony chopper** » Thu May 03, 2012 1:06 pm

in Harmor if you hold shift while dropping single-cycles onto the image, it stacks them & you can use the image as a wavetable (with proper interpolation between them).

Is there any format to store wavetables out there btw? Or what are those synths using, separate single-cycles, single-cycles stacked in a single wav file, proprietary bank formats?

projectdan · Post by **projectdan** » Thu May 03, 2012 1:07 pm

DevonB wrote:As a side note, did anyone emulate Ensoniq's Transwaves in the VFX/SQR/Fizmo's in a VST? Can't recall anything off the top of my head.
Devon

I think xoxos Steam was supposed to be based on the Fizmo.

chroma · Post by **chroma** » Thu May 03, 2012 1:14 pm

tony tony chopper wrote:in Harmor if you hold shift while dropping single-cycles onto the image, it stacks them & you can use the image as a wavetable (with proper interpolation between them).

Is there any format to store wavetables out there btw? Or what are those synths using, separate single-cycles, single-cycles stacked in a single wav file, proprietary bank formats?

that's very cool trick - will have to try it.

massive stores its wavetables as single-cycles stacked in a single wav file. ensoniq transwaves are similar.

What are some of the better software Wavetable synths?