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pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Sat May 05, 2012 12:15 pm

A couple of my latest Diva sounds...

I particularly like the variety and character of noisy type sounds I get in Diva. I find in quite a few synths that the noise sounds tacked on more than being shapable and part of the sound. There are some gorgeous tones in Diva with noise and higher resonance. The filter FM shapes it nicely.

http://draigathar.org/sounds/Diva49.mp3

This one is just a simple key sound... Diva can also make lots of simple sounds that are thinner and not so big and full. The DCO works well for this.

http://draigathar.org/sounds/Diva50b.mp3

LeVzi · Post by **LeVzi** » Sat May 05, 2012 12:55 pm

zerocrossing wrote:
LeVzi wrote:I didn't like it because of CPU use when I demo'd it upon it's release.

I tried it earlier and that's certainly been addressed to a certain degree.

I just don't want it because it doesn't offer me anything new to what I already have.

I've pretty much stopped buying synths all together now anyway, I am in fact making music which is a bit of a shock to the system.
Says the man who's shilling for 3 different U-he competitors in his signature.

How is Analog Dimension a competitor for u-he ? They are a mastering company !

Go back to gearslutz and bash various other companies some more there zc, and stop trolling here.

3ee · Post by **3ee** » Sat May 05, 2012 1:11 pm

Hey pdxindy cool audio clips!

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So, let's see: for someone who needs/wants an "analog" synth sound.

DIVA

Good:
-Brilliant sound quality with character
-Extra features & modulation options besides the classic analog emulations
-Game changer (the the VA world)
-(really have to mention this because it's true and it matters to have...) Great support!
anything else?

Bad:
-CPU-hog
-osc sync & lfo accuracy with high speeds (typical VA limitations?! )
-still missing 1-2% of that analog goodness
anything else?

Neutral:
Feature limitations (not to worry, Urs has planned and still planning features that will multiply the sound diversity within Diva... like an arp and modulation matrix now that the multi-thread support is implemented)

So, you can either choose to look at the bright side

..or focus on what tiny bits that are keeping Diva back atm (things that you might not even use), things that I'm sure will get sorted out more or less anyway...

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Sat May 05, 2012 2:17 pm

Bronto Scorpio wrote:
Regarding CPU usage. I have a really ancient PC and can only play most presets monophonically but that's not a problem here. Most host introduced something called "freeze" something like 10 years ago. Time to use that feature
I have to use it on almost all tracks anyway....I was never able to run more than 1 VST + effects at a time so it doesn't really make a difference to me.

Cheers
Dennis

Dennis, such a talented guy like you in terms of creating sounds and seeking for a new world of sounds deserves to have the proper tools for it. You have to get a new PC soon and I am herby officially donating 100 Euros so you can start planning. This is no KVR crap, this is for real and I will stand by my word....

djsubject · Post by **djsubject** » Sat May 05, 2012 2:18 pm

digitalboytn wrote: I guess the reason that so many people are enthusiastic about Diva is that she really is a game changer in the world of soft synths...

Exactly!!!

D-Cam did the same thing back in its day!

Obviously there is no Single synth! & if you had to pick only one it would not be Diva unless your production's only ever needed That sound!

for me the exciting thing about Diva is where Zebra 3 could be at!

better distortion & some OSC & Filter code (& the chorus of course) from Diva would make for one hell of a synth!

but i do "Like" diva allot!

even when making a "digital" lofi production a line od Smooth Diva running through it can gel the mix & overall sound really well!

the track still sounds Lo Fi & Digital & harsh but not thin

my mate got Diva to layer with Massive (witch dominate his productions) Divas roll in the track is underlying & not obvious but powerful!

Subz

Gonga · Post by **Gonga** » Sat May 05, 2012 3:04 pm

I've been using Diva a lot for bass. It's hard to justify using any other synth if you want an analog sound. When you start adding up oscillators the sound becomes unbloodyreal. I think Diva will usher in a new direction for synth bass - where VAs begin to eclipse analog hardware.

robenestobenz · Post by **robenestobenz** » Sat May 05, 2012 3:23 pm

pdxindy wrote:A couple of my latest Diva sounds...

I particularly like the variety and character of noisy type sounds I get in Diva. I find in quite a few synths that the noise sounds tacked on more than being shapable and part of the sound. There are some gorgeous tones in Diva with noise and higher resonance. The filter FM shapes it nicely.

http://draigathar.org/sounds/Diva49.mp3

Nice stuff. That one sound has got me interested in Diva. I totally agree about the noise, I've never used a soft synth where it really felt glued in to the sound. But in that sample, it does.

Sendy · Post by **Sendy** » Sat May 05, 2012 3:52 pm

Can someone tell me, how is Diva's osc sync deficient compared to a real analog synth? I have access to analog stuff, but none of it with sync.

What's the best softsynth for sync effects?

I'll admit, when I first tried Diva, I was having much more fun and being far more productive with Charlatan and the Polysix VST for some reason. I liked it, but I wasn't blown away at first. IMO, the idiom of analog synthesis is, on a purely intellectual level, somewhat tired, especially for a NEW synth. It's only when you sort of stop overthinking your evaluation of Diva, and just explore, listen, play... that you really start to 'get' it.

The truth is that analog style synthesis seems limited and boring to most, because the digital models of it lack nuance. When I bought a Korg Monotron it seemed like a toy, which in a way it was, but the thing is, with it's one sawtooth and one filter and one saw LFO, there are so many nuances of sound to find in there, that come about by subtle interactions of physical processes - which a typical digital model of a Monotron would miss. The digital model would yield a few characteristic sounds (filter low, filter high, resonance low, resonance high, combinations thereof...) wheras in reality you're missing SO much detail.

Diva is interesting because it's simply a step closer to sounding less like a typical digital emulation, where within a given set of parameters, you can pretty much hear all the permutations in one day and consider the terrain 'explored'. There are nooks and crannies to the sound - you can go spelunking in caves you never even knew existed.

I've never been an "analogue snobbe", I just like interesting and deep sounds, whether they be crusty digital lofi crap or a large string ensemble through a ring modulator. Diva has a deep and interesting sound to my ears.

samsam · Post by **samsam** » Sat May 05, 2012 4:38 pm

So it seems that pretty much everyone likes Diva. That's a relief.

tropicalontour · Post by **tropicalontour** » Sat May 05, 2012 5:02 pm

I don't dislike it, but I also haven't bought it. Maybe I just didn't get grabbed by it enough. I don't know. Weird.

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Sat May 05, 2012 5:13 pm

Ingonator wrote:
zerocrossing wrote:I think all you need to do is notice the constant steady stream of chatter about Diva to know it's the bomb, as the kids say. Now, notice it's newest competitor Saurus. Months of pages and pages and pages sparked by a "win the software" contest. Very clever marketing, but a few days after the release the talk about it has totally dried up.
Maybe this is because some people (including me) just started working with Saurus instead talking about it the whole day...
If you search for some news you could also check the official Tone2 forum:
http://www.tone2.org/forum/index.php

Ingo

That's a bit sad. Nobody seems to be discussing saurus on their own forum?

Shy · Post by **Shy** » Sat May 05, 2012 5:22 pm

Sendy wrote:Can someone tell me, how is Diva's osc sync deficient compared to a real analog synth? I have access to analog stuff, but none of it with sync.

Very deficient.

LeVzi · Post by **LeVzi** » Sat May 05, 2012 5:27 pm

Echoes in the Attic wrote:
Ingonator wrote:
zerocrossing wrote:I think all you need to do is notice the constant steady stream of chatter about Diva to know it's the bomb, as the kids say. Now, notice it's newest competitor Saurus. Months of pages and pages and pages sparked by a "win the software" contest. Very clever marketing, but a few days after the release the talk about it has totally dried up.
Maybe this is because some people (including me) just started working with Saurus instead talking about it the whole day...
If you search for some news you could also check the official Tone2 forum:
http://www.tone2.org/forum/index.php

Ingo
That's a bit sad. Nobody seems to be discussing saurus on their own forum?

Why mention Saurus ? Why keep banging on about Saurus ? Oh it's Zerocrossing, he's got OCD regarding it or any competitor to DIVA.

Why can't people just f**king shut up about Saurus in DIVA threads and vice versa ?

djsubject · Post by **djsubject** » Sat May 05, 2012 6:07 pm

Personally i like the sound of them both?

i don't see the problem?

Sendy · Post by **Sendy** » Sat May 05, 2012 6:08 pm

Shy wrote:
Sendy wrote:Can someone tell me, how is Diva's osc sync deficient compared to a real analog synth? I have access to analog stuff, but none of it with sync.
Very deficient.

Yes, but in what way? Artifacts? Sweep stepping/zippering? Lack of smoothness?

Genuinely curious here as I don't have a reference.

Does anyone NOT like Diva?