look, those of you who can't use this thing properly :
Your music is obviously not anechoic enough !
Bram's Anechoic Room Simulator
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- KVRian
- 868 posts since 7 May, 2002 from Sydney, Australia
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- KVRist
- 263 posts since 24 Oct, 2000 from Germany
ooooh,ooooh,some wonderfull replies here 
Oooooh, for those technicaly-minded: the simulator uses 50th order bypass-filters, identity-matrix multiplications and dirac convolution techniques.
Not to mention numerous divisions by exp(-sqrt(-1)*2*Pi).
All of course in full 128-bit precision both backwards and forwards.
Oversampled 8x for increased fidelity in the highs. (duh-uh)
- bram
That one cracked me upIt is just pure, sweet barbecue sauce on smoked ribs.
Oooooh, for those technicaly-minded: the simulator uses 50th order bypass-filters, identity-matrix multiplications and dirac convolution techniques.
Not to mention numerous divisions by exp(-sqrt(-1)*2*Pi).
All of course in full 128-bit precision both backwards and forwards.
Oversampled 8x for increased fidelity in the highs. (duh-uh)
- bram
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- KVRAF
- 25015 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
that reminds me of when Aleksey (Voxengo) releasedthorau wrote:This Plug does simply nothing! I'm was rather going mad and I stabbed a friend with large studio equipment...NOTHING!!!
We tried it in Cubase SX 2.01, Sonar 3.11 and FL Studio and listened and measured it with special, expensive studio analyzers...NOTHING!!!
We connected it as insert and send effect and, what shall I say: NOTHING!!!
Bram did a lot of great things, he's a pro, no doubt!
This one is an April-joke for me. I don't understand you all that are full of good reviews...But it's funny at all!
the first beta of Warmifier - there were some people
who even called it a 'placebo'effect, just because
their ears were so bad that they didn't hear the
rather obvious effect that it had on most material
that is fed through it...
http://www.kvr-vst.com/forum/viewtopic. ... 47&start=0
How can you just because the effect is too subtle for your ears, Thorau (and that of your dubious friend), say that it does nothing and even call it an april-joke only because it was coincidently released around april 1st?
Don't you think this a bit too arrogant from you?
At least you know now that you can't even slightly
trust your ears!
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- KVRist
- 356 posts since 13 Oct, 2002
No, I don't think it's arrogant to speak out facts. Look, my ears are ok so far, my friend and his crew are not dubious, and High-Tech-Studio-Measurement-Equipment is surely out of any doubt. I never wanted to offend Bram and I wrote it before. All I want is to understand every plug. My experience says that there is either a fault in my doing or in the doing of others. Here I tried with some professional helpers to understand what this plug does and how it can be used. And by analyzing the in- and output of signal ways there were no measureable differences. That are facts, no prejudices or any "dubious" reasons else. I only want to get answers - nothing else, ok?
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- KVRian
- 868 posts since 7 May, 2002 from Sydney, Australia
Hmmm Thorau maybe if you write down some of the tests you carried out, we can advise on the proper course of action - would hate to think someone's missing out on the amazing stuff you can get out of this thing.
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- KVRian
- 1112 posts since 17 Jul, 2003 from Kauai, HI
Ahhh! So that's the secret, eh? Simple, when you put it like that. No wonder the plug is so pure and clean.Not to mention numerous divisions by exp(-sqrt(-1)*2*Pi).
Say Bram, I've been meaning to ask how you're getting on with your perpetual motion machine?
Tom
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- KVRAF
- 4692 posts since 28 Jan, 2003 from In these very interwebs
Man, Bram! You're giving it away! You're giving away the secret!Bram wrote:Oooooh, for those technicaly-minded: the simulator uses 50th order bypass-filters, identity-matrix multiplications and dirac convolution techniques.
Not to mention numerous divisions by exp(-sqrt(-1)*2*Pi).
All of course in full 128-bit precision both backwards and forwards.
Oversampled 8x for increased fidelity in the highs. (duh-uh)
Forever,
Kim.
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- KVRAF
- 3745 posts since 29 Sep, 2002 from Killafornia
thorau wrote:The measurement-setup was as proper as the measuring-process itself. They do their jobs since nearly three decades!
Maybe you can try holding down [shift] as you turn the knob, it gives you slightly more accurate control over the amount of transparency.
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- KVRian
- 868 posts since 7 May, 2002 from Sydney, Australia
Three decades ??? Surely they already have a good anechoic chmaber effect ??thorau wrote:The measurement-setup was as proper as the measuring-process itself. They do their jobs since nearly three decades!
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- KVRAF
- 25015 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
we all do mistakes from time to time...thorau wrote:The measurement-setup was as proper as the measuring-process itself. They do their jobs since nearly three decades!
- furtheron this anechoic-room simulator is a
revolutionary new effect - I don't think someone has
programmed such an advanced algorithm before - I highly doubt that they can measure what it does with aged measurement methods....
Please don't misunderstand me - I don't want to
say they're not good at their job, but this is
a new millenium with new modern gear and you need new modern ears for getting the best out of it -
please don't be so respectless as to disregard Bram's
fantastic work - I mean it's such a fresh approach
at coding and yet it is still so simple to handle
this beast - there is only one button and only by proper use of this one button you get a myriad of sonic possiblities - only they are very subtle and if you don't know how it SHOULD sound you probably won't notice how incredibly exact the simulation works
I'm sure it took Bram many many hours (at least several days I guess)just to calculate the most basic design of this effect. - It's mathematically very
complex, you know?!
anyway, all is good Thorau - just use the gear you know how to handle and I am sure one day someone will explain you why you don't hear anything while using it - then surely you will learn to hear and respect the accuracy of the simulation as well...
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- KVRian
- 868 posts since 7 May, 2002 from Sydney, Australia
I think listening really carefully for a few more hours is a better idea for hearing the difference ... as someone else said, headphones help !jens wrote: I am sure one day someone will explain you why you don't hear anything while using it - then surely you will learn to hear and respect the accuracy of the simulation as well...
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- KVRAF
- 25015 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
yes, understanding things on your own without the helpPantsdown666 wrote:I think listening really carefully for a few more hours is a better idea for hearing the difference ... as someone else said, headphones help !jens wrote: I am sure one day someone will explain you why you don't hear anything while using it - then surely you will learn to hear and respect the accuracy of the simulation as well...
or the hints of others is surely the best thing for
learning to handle the world around you -
it's only I'm doubting the existence of Thorau's
ability in this respect