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CLOfficialProductions · Wed May 16, 2012 6:59 am

Hey Guys this is my first post on KVR !

Anyways, I Have a question on how to make an electrohouse bass. ive come so close in previous attempts but i cant get that BIG sound even after mastering a track. My whole track will sound great but the drop :/
Here are some examples

about 1:05

Thanks !

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itsNano · Post by **itsNano** » Wed May 16, 2012 8:59 pm

well, I would stack a saw wave with some subliminal white noise to make it fatter. Also, if you have sausage fattener, that would make it really fat. Make sure you EQ/Compress it too. Also, you can do some searching for presets that can help you get closer to that sound after you process it. Hope that helped a tiny bit! I'll try to recreate it and post it here.

MOK19 · Post by **MOK19** » Wed May 16, 2012 9:55 pm

Something I tend to do is separate the bass proper from the tonality, aggression and grit. In other words, use at least two synths. One of em is lowpassed, or is just a sine sub. Pure bass, little texture. The other is highpassed in addition to whatever the synth is doing, and provides the texture and tonality. This frees you up to get whatever texture you want without worrying whether it has the low frequencies.

As for the texture, try monkeying with waveforms' relative phase.

One of the things I also like doing is plugging a very slim pulse waveform, like 1/16th of a cycle or 22.5ish degrees, and use it at a low octave so that it all it produces on its own is a grating, clicky sound. Layer that over the saws to grant some extra grit and aggression.

If you want a little touch of melodic interest, trying adding a quiet oscillator that's transposed up by 7 semitones, or a 5th. Real quiet though.

Another thing I've been discovering lately is using phase modulation. It works sorta like FM, where you have a carrier and a modulator, but with different sonic results. Some basic use produces really nice stuff at the low end. Just have one sine set up as a phase modulator routed into a sine carrier, and you're pretty much set. The modulator's level will probably need to be kinda high, and experiment with raising or lowering the modulator's octave. Though if I'm recalling right, 1:1 works just fine.

You could use that phase modulated synth as your sub with the upper part being just regular saws. It sounds more complicated than it actually is, and has been working like a charm for me. All you need is a synth that can do that, which is common nowadays.

MOK19 · Post by **MOK19** » Wed May 16, 2012 10:08 pm

But I think the kinda stereotypical basis of the electro bass is a saw and a -1 octave square. Beyond that, it's a mixing thing more than a sound design thing.

MOK19 · Post by **MOK19** » Wed May 16, 2012 10:10 pm

OK, confession, I totally didn't listen to the examples and just spat out some stuff that generally works within the genre. To be clear, whatevers happening in the examples has nothin to do with my prior posts, though they're still solid for the style. =/

CLOfficialProductions · Wed May 16, 2012 10:51 pm

Thanks guys

& MOK19 its okay haha,

Yeah I'm trying to recreate something like that w/ massive or sylenth.
Ive even been trying to use Sample basshots too!

BTW: For basses like these, around what frequency range is it recomended to cut the lower frequencies?
I've been cutting mine at 30hz.

itsNano · Post by **itsNano** » Wed May 16, 2012 10:52 pm

lol. Thanks anyways for the info. Never hurts to know a little more about sound design ^^

itsNano · Post by **itsNano** » Wed May 16, 2012 10:54 pm

Ima try to use sylenth and massive and see which one has it better.

CLOfficialProductions · Thu May 17, 2012 12:10 am

So far this is what I have

http://www63.zippyshare.com/v/86285560/file.html

I THINK it's almost there but idk I'd love some feedback

TBH, I honestly don't know what I'm doing, I'm all ear. I mean I know basics of things but yeah haha you know what I mean.

The first is a sylenth basic electro bass that I added effects to,

& the 2nd one is a sample that I added ALOT of effects to.
& Thanks alot for all the feedback and help guys!

ingrossor21 · Post by **ingrossor21** » Thu May 17, 2012 1:32 am

can u share what u did with the first one, if u can the preset would help

osiris · Post by **osiris** » Thu May 17, 2012 9:52 am

I read a really interesting technique the other day. Take 3 basses. The sub is mono, panned dead center. I've been using Predator for sub basses. Some really nice ones that sit well in a mix. The other two are the your main basses, same synth, one panned hard right, the other panned hard left. Same preset on both, but on one you take a filter and cut out the low end. I'm sure you'd have to tweak to get it to sound like you want. From there I guess you'd group these 3 to a submix and that's where you'd put your sidechain compressor. He says you have to do this on the mixer for it to sound right. I tried it and got some interesting results, but I didn't pan it on the mixer buss, so it wasn't what I wanted, but I thought that was an interesting technique.

CLOfficialProductions · Fri May 18, 2012 12:08 am

@ingrosso21 All I really did was took a basic saw and boosted a bit of the lows, the mids, and highs. Added some Ohmnicide(what really makes the bass), some SAUSAGE FATTENER & a tad bit of bitcrusher

@osiris Cool I will try that next time

Ill try it next time im designing a drop

btw any constructive feedback on the basses? xD

itsNano · Post by **itsNano** » Fri May 18, 2012 1:30 am

any good tutorials that you know of for ohmicide? I got sausage fattener and bitcrusher as well, but I don't really know how to use ohmicide yet

JD Gaffe · Post by **JD Gaffe** » Fri May 18, 2012 1:37 am

itsNano wrote:any good tutorials that you know of for ohmicide?

Read the manual.

CLOfficialProductions · Fri May 18, 2012 3:35 am

@ItsNano, I'de tell you if I could, but I just mess around until I get something I like really. lol

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