Zero Delay Feedback Filter (How to test if your synth has a )- Xils-Lab White Paper -

[LeVzi]

One reason why the U-he crew is popular here, is they can discuss things without sounding like an ad, and can post on a variety of topics, and it not be all about them. Not dropping unrelated "ad bombs" on every thread about synths.
Xils Labs doesn't need an ads spokesman, and can just rely on the quality of their products for good word of mouth comments.

Sorry but LOL.

And as for not ad dropping, I think you'll find that's ALL they do.

Any thread that pops up that's even remotely associated, it's here try this or try this it does it better.

It's a shame that last line doesn't apply to other companies too.

[Howard]

One reason why the U-he crew is popular here, is they can discuss things without sounding like an ad, and can post on a variety of topics, and it not be all about them. Not dropping unrelated "ad bombs" on every thread about synths. Xils Labs doesn't need an ads spokesman, and can just rely on the quality of their products for good word of mouth comments.

Sorry but LOL.
And as for not ad dropping, I think you'll find that's ALL they do. Any thread that pops up that's even remotely associated, it's here try this or try this it does it better.

For a second I thought you meant all *u-he* does in here is drop ads. Surely not...?

[KBSoundSmith]

One reason why the U-he crew is popular here, is they can discuss things without sounding like an ad, and can post on a variety of topics, and it not be all about them. Not dropping unrelated "ad bombs" on every thread about synths.
Xils Labs doesn't need an ads spokesman, and can just rely on the quality of their products for good word of mouth comments.

Sorry but LOL.

And as for not ad dropping, I think you'll find that's ALL they do.

Any thread that pops up that's even remotely associated, it's here try this or try this it does it better.

It's a shame that last line doesn't apply to other companies too.

Cut the bullshit, almost every developer does that at one point or another. At least U-he will be on topic and add to the discussion, or not transparently be trying to sell things. Take a look at George from DiscoDSP -- just randomly, never having been part of a discussion and without adding to the discussion, will just name drop synths in a two-line post, all the time. But you know what? I don't have a problem with that at all. Every developer wants you to try/buy their synths, and this is largely a developers' forum, so it's to be expected.

Edit: In fact, I like the fact they do it; I've more than once come across an interesting plug-in for just that reason. And it lets me know that the developer is active, and available.

And I might add, I don't know why you are on such a passionate, irrational crusade against U-he, but your constant negative spamming of every thread is really starting to get annoying. By and large, I like to ghost-read, I try to stay out of discussions in general; but ever since Diva came out and many people have become defensive/jealous of Diva's success, it's been a lot less pleasurable reading this forum, least of all because people who have no affiliation with any of the developers start spamming every thread possible. We understand you have an irrational hatred for U-he. Noted. Stop reminding us every chance you get.

[george]

So I guess we have another hijacked thread then

[Howard]

So I guess we have another hijacked thread then

Looks like it

[KBSoundSmith]

So I guess we have another hijacked thread then

I wouldn't worry too much, this thread was destined to be hijacked given the current climate. If every one insistently talks about 0df instead, things will turn around.

Anyway, I asked a few posts ago, which seems to have been missed, if anyone had any suggested reading about filter design and 0df filters (academic, not ads), as I would like to know more about them in general. You mentioned in another thread that you were going to be implementing a new filter soon. Might you explain a bit more about it's implementation?

(By the way, my post above is no way an attack on you; don't misunderstand it as anything negative towards you)

[george]

You mentioned in another thread that you were going to be implementing a new filter soon. Might you explain a bit more about it's implementation?

The new filter is based on ideas from http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=349859 with some in-house modifications. It is gonna take more CPU but I definitely think it's worth it We're gonna get some exciting stuff in the software synth plug-ins.

[Urs]

Any thread that pops up that's even remotely associated, it's here try this or try this it does it better.

If you can send me an email with a single post where I did this, I will formally apologize for all you believe I did to you.

[Urs]

You mentioned in another thread that you were going to be implementing a new filter soon. Might you explain a bit more about it's implementation?

The new filter is based on ideas from http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=349859 with some in-house modifications. It is gonna take more CPU but I definitely think it's worth it We're gonna get some exciting stuff in the software synth plug-ins.

Out of curiosity, does it pass the test described by the OP?

It sure looks interesting, and if it solves the cpu problem than that'll be good for all of us!

[mystran]

You mentioned in another thread that you were going to be implementing a new filter soon. Might you explain a bit more about it's implementation?

The new filter is based on ideas from http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=349859 with some in-house modifications. It is gonna take more CPU but I definitely think it's worth it We're gonna get some exciting stuff in the software synth plug-ins.

Out of curiosity, does it pass the test described by the OP?

I would comment on this that using that method, you should get a filter that will pass the test if you model a filter that passes the test.

So eg my simplified ladder model (the one I posted in the thread) doesn't strictly speaking pass the test, since (like the real thing) the operating point does modulate the cutoff somewhat. It's close though.

[LeVzi]

Any thread that pops up that's even remotely associated, it's here try this or try this it does it better.

If you can send me an email with a single post where I did this, I will formally apologize for all you believe I did to you.

I'm not talking about you directly, i'm talking about the cross section of people who are constantly buzzing around like flies who do it.

You do have a habit of sticking your oar in where it's not wanted though Urs, you've proven that on a number of occasions, unless you are the centre of attention you really aren't a happy bunny.

Why do you think I dumped your synths so quickly ? Not only are they of no use to me, but i'd never support a developer quite as two faced as you are.

[Urs]

Any thread that pops up that's even remotely associated, it's here try this or try this it does it better.

If you can send me an email with a single post where I did this, I will formally apologize for all you believe I did to you.

I'm not talking about you directly, i'm talking about the cross section of people who are constantly buzzing around like flies who do it.

You do have a habit of sticking your oar in where it's not wanted though Urs, you've proven that on a number of occasions, unless you are the centre of attention you really aren't a happy bunny.

Why do you think I dumped your synths so quickly ? Not only are they of no use to me, but i'd never support a developer quite as two faced as you are.

Thanks. That's all I needed to know.

[vurt]

Any thread that pops up that's even remotely associated, it's here try this or try this it does it better.

If you can send me an email with a single post where I did this, I will formally apologize for all you believe I did to you.

I'm not talking about you directly, i'm talking about the cross section of people who are constantly buzzing around like flies who do it.

You do have a habit of sticking your oar in where it's not wanted though Urs, you've proven that on a number of occasions, unless you are the centre of attention you really aren't a happy bunny.

Why do you think I dumped your synths so quickly ? Not only are they of no use to me, but i'd never support a developer quite as two faced as you are.

can you show any proof of this?
anyone can make unfounded accusations, without proof though its just hyperbole.

[george]

Out of curiosity, does it pass the test described by the OP?

I think so

www.discodsp.com/mp3/snippet/sweep24db.mp3

Resonance was set about three o'clock.

[KBSoundSmith]

You mentioned in another thread that you were going to be implementing a new filter soon. Might you explain a bit more about it's implementation?

The new filter is based on ideas from http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=349859 with some in-house modifications. It is gonna take more CPU but I definitely think it's worth it We're gonna get some exciting stuff in the software synth plug-ins.

Thanks for pointing me to that thread, it was a really interesting read. There were some other links in there as well that I'm going to read, so you have helped my Sunday morning coffee taste that much better!