KVR Audio

osiris · Post by **osiris** » Sun May 20, 2012 12:59 pm

Really good deal on a new computer that has Windows 7 Home Premium. I've used XP forever. I have an MAudio soundcard that will have to go in it. What are any problems you've encountered installing/using music software? If I do this I'll have to reinstall everything and I'm not looking forward to it (Komplete should take 2 days or so just for it and updates) Tell me some good and bad things and help me decide. Thanks.

tehlord · Post by **tehlord** » Sun May 20, 2012 1:19 pm

100% flawless for me. In just under a year it's not let me down once. The only issue will be driver support, but you could argue that it'll be more of a problem for XP now.

uselessmind · Post by **uselessmind** » Sun May 20, 2012 1:23 pm

Works just fine for me.
Nothing bad to report as far as audio goes i'm afraid.

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rlindsey0 · Post by **rlindsey0** » Sun May 20, 2012 2:51 pm

Well, I use Win 7 Pro, but I guess it's not too different.

The one thing I found was that I had to take an extra step with some of the older XP-vintage programs I had (eg, Tracktion 3 and some old IK Multimedia plugins). Principally, this meant right-clicking and manually forcing "Run as administrator" when installing them and then again with the .exe file after they were installed (this only has to be done once), as well as using WinXP SP2 or SP3 compatibility mode. Not sure if Win7 Home has these capabilities, but I would assume so. If not, you might want to consider the "Anytime Upgrade" to Pro.

AFAIK not all programs might need this approach; some might work fine with a normal install under Win7. But if you have problems, try the approach above.

DarkStar · Post by **DarkStar** » Sun May 20, 2012 3:20 pm

rlindsey0 wrote: Principally, this meant right-clicking and manually forcing "Run as administrator" when installing them and then again with the .exe file after they were installed (this only has to be done once), as well as using WinXP SP2 or SP3 compatibility mode. Not sure if Win7 Home has these capabilities,

Yes it does. You may need to do the same for your DAW so that it passes the "elevated privileges" onto the plugins.

Create your own folder (and sub-folders) for VST plugins, outside of the "program Files " folders.

Make sure you can get all the drivers for your ear too.

All is working well here.

DevonB · Post by **DevonB** » Sun May 20, 2012 4:50 pm

I did a poll on here a year and a half ago as to how people were getting on with Win 7. 87% of them said they were fine while 13% had issues. This was 91 votes. I'd say not too bad. I've been using Win 7 since September 2010 for my DAW and really, no issues, outside of getting overclocker memory to work right the first day and USB3 blue screening (which has nothing to do with the OS. A BIOS update for my motherboard fixed the problem.)

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... ht=windows

I'd absolutley go for Win 7 without hesitation.

Devon

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sun May 20, 2012 5:12 pm

Flawless W7 Home Premium on i5 laptop here.

Jafo · Post by **Jafo** » Sun May 20, 2012 5:25 pm

Audio fails every few days, and nothing less than a complete reboot fixes it. This happens whether I'm using the integrated Realtek crap soundcard or an outboard USB card (a Line 6 GuitarPort) or both. Drivers are current. BIOS is current. All the correct services are enabled, including explicit instructions to restart upon failure. (In fact, the system says there is no error when there clearly is.) Cables are correct. No conflicts with IRQs. Latencies tested at various points between 4.6 and 1000 ms. This happens in ASIO hosts (Tracktion 1.6, Samplitude Silver Cloud, and a few more that I've forgotten -- 32-bit and 64-bit hosts) and in various plain old playback apps (VLC, WinAmp, WMP). Everything installed as admin, failure occurs whether running as admin or as peon. Tried both the GuitarPort ASIO and ASIO4ALL singly (properly uninstalling the other) and together.

The USB soundcard has no issues in other systems, or in different OSes on the same system -- well, the two Linux live distros I played with, at least. The Realtek crap worked fine in other OSes on the same system.

Worse, I'm far from the only person:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/wind ... acb797d019
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/wind ... e651cd8810
http://mtippach.proboards.com/index.cgi ... hread=2036
http://www.native-instruments.com/knowl ... Processing

et cetera ad infinitum ad nauseam.[/list]

When it works, it works great, and a reboot every few days isn't so bad (reminds me of MS-DOS). Then again, the audio has been known to stop ten minutes after a reboot after audio stopping, so I guess it depends on your tolerance for insanity. Hmm, I was going to say that it's like dating a crazy person -- shit just happens for no reason whatsoever -- but honestly, Windows 7 audio is substantially more stable than most people I've dated.

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Sun May 20, 2012 5:31 pm

Been using it for 14 months now, no probs at all.

rlindsey0 · Post by **rlindsey0** » Sun May 20, 2012 5:41 pm

You may have tried this already, but how about using compatibility mode? This goes beyond "run as admin" and might help.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/31 ... -mode.html

I don't really know whether this would fix your problem, but maybe it's worth considering if it hasn't already been tried.

Jafo wrote:Audio fails every few days, and nothing less than a complete reboot fixes it. This happens whether I'm using the integrated Realtek crap soundcard or an outboard USB card (a Line 6 GuitarPort) or both. Drivers are current. BIOS is current. All the correct services are enabled, including explicit instructions to restart upon failure. (In fact, the system says there is no error when there clearly is.) Cables are correct. No conflicts with IRQs. Latencies tested at various points between 4.6 and 1000 ms. This happens in ASIO hosts (Tracktion 1.6, Samplitude Silver Cloud, and a few more that I've forgotten -- 32-bit and 64-bit hosts) and in various plain old playback apps (VLC, WinAmp, WMP). Everything installed as admin, failure occurs whether running as admin or as peon. Tried both the GuitarPort ASIO and ASIO4ALL singly (properly uninstalling the other) and together.

osiris · Post by **osiris** » Sun May 20, 2012 10:45 pm

Well I did it. It was too great a deal to pass up: Athlon Vision Quad core/8GB RAM and 1TB hard drive. I have an M audio soundcard, but I can't install it until I finish a song I'm working on. I guess the 'fun' really begins there. I'm assuming everything I have to re-install should be 64 bit. I'm also assuming licenses you get cover 64 bit versions. There's actually no point in installing software until I get FL 64 bit installed. I'm anxious/terrified at the same time.

Throbert · Post by **Throbert** » Mon May 21, 2012 3:51 pm

So while we'er on the OS, can you have 7 installed on one drive and use the drive on two systems? I'm not asking about drivers, consider they are already slipped in for both rigs. I'm wondering how MS would look at it???

rlindsey0 · Post by **rlindsey0** » Mon May 21, 2012 4:05 pm

Throbert wrote:So while we'er on the OS, can you have 7 installed on one drive and use the drive on two systems? I'm not asking about drivers, consider they are already slipped in for both rigs. I'm wondering how MS would look at it???

Pretty sure you can't do that if you install the less expensive OEM version. My understanding, which could be flawed, is that these versions are keyed to the systems you install them on and can't be used in other systems.

Don't know if what you want to do is possible if you install the full boxed retail version (which might cost almost as much as buying two OEM versions).

Kaboom75 · Post by **Kaboom75** » Wed May 23, 2012 3:01 pm

Installed Xp atleast two times per year to fix it.
Installed Win 7 64bit home once two years ago never one problem.

The free Anti Virus that you can download for Win 7 from Microsoft is flawless and only uses 5MB of RAM.

Win Xp is limited to 2GB RAM per application 3.5Gb in total for everything running.

Win 7 64bit home can use 16GB RAM per 64bit software 3.2 GB per 32bit software 16GB in total. Aps or games need to be 64bit to use more than 3.2GB of RAM.

For 32bit DAWS which are still going to be limited to 3.2GB RAM Jbridge can be installed to allow plugins their own process outside the DAW so that you can make use of all your ram and have mixes 14Gb in size.

Win 7 64bit Runs 32bit and 64bit software.
Some very old aps and games will not work, the ones that are no longer supported by the devs.

Win 7 gives better graphics in games than XP.
Win 7 looks nicer.

Installing Win 7 64bit you need 64bit drivers for hardware such as sound processor, graphics card, motherboard drivers. You might need 64bit midi controller driver. 32bit Ableton Live 8.3 runs fine so do 32bit VST plugins.

Please tell me your experience good or bad using Window 7 Home premium for audio