KVR Audio

rj0 · Post by **rj0** » Sun May 20, 2012 11:16 pm

lightsfadelow wrote:Have you used RX2?

No, I already have PhotoSounder,

... and I hate having to switch to a non-inline, non-interactive app (regardless of whether it's another iZotope app or not) from Iris.

lionscub68 · Post by **lionscub68** » Sun May 20, 2012 11:20 pm

Between recently getting Iris, Trilian, and a Korg microsampler... plus jumping ship from Logic over the Live 8 in the last 6 months... man o man it's gonna be a busy summer

lightsfadelow · Post by **lightsfadelow** » Mon May 21, 2012 12:01 am

rj0 I'm not sure what you are getting at. RX2 can be used as a stand-alone app or as plugins and is meant for a very ifferent purpose than Iris. One is an instrument, the other is a spectral editor/repair tool. RX2 is designed properly for its use. Erik was asking about a tool that could edit several minutes of audio content, RX2 is a fine suggestion for that purpose. That doesn't take anything away from Iris, which is meant for a completely different use case.

rj0 · Post by **rj0** » Mon May 21, 2012 12:43 am

lightsfadelow wrote:rj0 I'm not sure what you are getting at. RX2 can be used as a stand-alone app or as plugins and is meant for a very ifferent purpose than Iris. One is an instrument, the other is a spectral editor/repair tool. RX2 is designed properly for its use. Erik was asking about a tool that could edit several minutes of audio content, RX2 is a fine suggestion for that purpose. That doesn't take anything away from Iris, which is meant for a completely different use case.

"Spectral Repair is not supported on this host."

Maybe just better if iZotope removed some of Iris' limitations rather than have to buy an additional rather expensive and off-line solution.

Yes, I know, you're offering a nice alternative iZotope solution to Iris for his problem, but it feels so very much like an upsell for something that Iris ought to be able to do in the first place.

lightsfadelow · Post by **lightsfadelow** » Mon May 21, 2012 1:26 am

I'm not sure what host you're using. If the host doesn't have a WAV editor built in, then perhaps you can't use the tool the way it was intended, which is (one of the reasons) why they also have a standaone app. RX2 and Iris are different animals that use the same tech. I would never want to use Iris to clean up a vocal track, but I use RX2 to do it all the time.

Although if you're suggesting some sort of realtime spectral filter based on the RX2 spectral engine, that sound like a cool plugin too.

rj0 · Post by **rj0** » Mon May 21, 2012 1:51 am

Erik's host, but it isn't the only host I tried.

I guess I really do see Iris as essentially a kind of semi-real-time spectral filter (for pads and the like, with the selections as the modulations) based on RX2. That's perhaps why I find this so irritating.

lightsfadelow · Post by **lightsfadelow** » Mon May 21, 2012 2:08 am

If it were a spectral filter, it would be an effect plugin not an instrument plugin. But I do like the idea of a spectral filter effect. I suspect it would be very hard to build such a thing, though, since you aren't loading samples in this model, you're processing arbitrary audio as it enters the plugin in realtime. I'm not sure what you'd show as the frequency spectrum to draw on... maybe I'm just not smart enough to figure it out

If I want to take a long audio track and do a spectral edit on in, I picture that as an offline operation and I use RX2.

ToneCarver · Post by **ToneCarver** » Mon May 21, 2012 2:39 am

lightsfadelow wrote:If it were a spectral filter, it would be an effect plugin not an instrument plugin. But I do like the idea of a spectral filter effect. I suspect it would be very hard to build such a thing, though, since you aren't loading samples in this model, you're processing arbitrary audio as it enters the plugin in realtime. I'm not sure what you'd show as the frequency spectrum to draw on... maybe I'm just not smart enough to figure it out

Actually, iZotope has had one for a few years now,
http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/spectron/

It uses LFOs instead of paintbrushes, but does provide spectral filters, delays, a 'morph' and pan effects. It can be just the right tool sometimes.

rj0 · Post by **rj0** » Mon May 21, 2012 2:54 am

Perhaps it's more viewpoint than anything.

PhotoSounder is an off-line spectral editor/filter. And if one is using it to edit pads and environments for an instrument (ie. a sampler), then Iris works a lot like the integrated equivalent (spectral editor and sampler, except with a lot of seemingly unnecessary limitations in the spectral editing department).

As for real-time, no you can't feed arbitrary track audio into Iris and use it as a filter. But that arbitrary track audio comes from either a sample, which can be loaded directly into Iris and processed. Or from a synth, but here Iris 'is' the synth.

lightsfadelow · Post by **lightsfadelow** » Mon May 21, 2012 2:54 am

Right on. I don't own that but maybe Erik should check it out.

ErikH · Post by **ErikH** » Mon May 21, 2012 6:22 am

I haven't looked deep enough into RX2 but it might indeed be what I have to add as (once again...) final tool.
From my point of view it does not replace Iris. Iris is really an synth, RX2 is / could be used more an effects tool. For any kind of droning and twisting of sound Iris can be used. To select and manipulate certain harmonics of an entire file RX2 is needed.
Who knows: perhaps a stripped-down version of RX2 (no restoring tools) will be implemented in a future Iris upgrade?
My only suggestion to iZotope would be to offer a kind of cross-grade price for RX2 to registered Iris owners. I may suggest it to them...

matteogk · Post by **matteogk** » Mon May 21, 2012 3:07 pm

Sorry for posting several Iris demo. I did not mean at all to promote myself in the thread.

Jake Jackson · Post by **Jake Jackson** » Mon May 21, 2012 9:42 pm

Is Izotope always so silent? No forum. No one checking in here. Seems odd these days.

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Tue May 22, 2012 3:54 am

Jake Jackson wrote:Is Izotope always so silent? No forum. No one checking in here. Seems odd these days.

There seems to be someone from iZotope watching the Gearslutz forum but the Iris-thread over there is dead sort of...
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/new-prod ... -iris.html

tony Smyth · Post by **tony Smyth** » Tue May 22, 2012 3:28 pm

everything Ive hear so far from this plug has been ambient. Can't it do anything else?

iZotope Iris