SKnote "ThreeD" - Mono to stereo and stereo enhancement - Available NOW
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2432 posts since 15 Jul, 2004 from Italy
I use mics and real rooms as much as I can.kvaca wrote:sorry,but tell me one reason why not use 2 mics and get much more natural sound...instead of use 1 mic + ear fatiguing effect???
These effects are very useful to me very often:
- I get a synthetic signal, like synth pad, and the stereo image doesn't fit in the mix
- I have received mono recs, I'm not doing the tracking
- I need extremely wide effects, like in some pop music
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2432 posts since 15 Jul, 2004 from Italy
Not splitting and recombining but in a continuous smooth waySelfik wrote:Quinto is this tool splitting signal in multibands and spread-panning those freqs in stereo panorama?
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2432 posts since 15 Jul, 2004 from Italy
Mmhhh, it is not just the old trick of complementary eqs, you cannot do this with a trick!
It is frequency based stereo rotation plus a frequency dependent effect and coming soon an envelope detector (for algorithm B, preserves attacks)
It is frequency based stereo rotation plus a frequency dependent effect and coming soon an envelope detector (for algorithm B, preserves attacks)
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2432 posts since 15 Jul, 2004 from Italy
Mid is untouched. You can test it through that sample. Load it in a track, set the panning to sum to mono and listen while the effect goes in and out.
Fild uses a different algorithm, based on phases. This one is based on frequency dependent stereo rotation.
Fild contains a lot of other things, too. An unique phase equaliser and a complete (up to weird) stereo control section.
Both are mono compatible.
Fild uses a different algorithm, based on phases. This one is based on frequency dependent stereo rotation.
Fild contains a lot of other things, too. An unique phase equaliser and a complete (up to weird) stereo control section.
Both are mono compatible.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2432 posts since 15 Jul, 2004 from Italy
Well, with "trick" we mean something we can do with basic tools and manually, right?
Examples of tricks:
- load two eqplugins on two identical tracks, pan them to the extreme L and R, draw an eq curve on one and try to draw the complementary cutve on the other one.
- get the same two tracks (identical) and slightly delay one (argh!)
- get a single mono track, insert a stereo delay and set three echoes, panned C L R, in the Haas range (4 - 100ms). The first one is to avoid apparent panning because of precedence effect
- get two identical tracks and insert a phase shifter on one
etc. etc.
This one is an algorithm.
It uses a combination of allpass, stereo rotation, feedback, plus a filtering network (to make it frequency dependent through that freq knob)
It is perfectly mono compatible, no phase shifts, etc.
Examples of tricks:
- load two eqplugins on two identical tracks, pan them to the extreme L and R, draw an eq curve on one and try to draw the complementary cutve on the other one.
- get the same two tracks (identical) and slightly delay one (argh!)
- get a single mono track, insert a stereo delay and set three echoes, panned C L R, in the Haas range (4 - 100ms). The first one is to avoid apparent panning because of precedence effect
- get two identical tracks and insert a phase shifter on one
etc. etc.
This one is an algorithm.
It uses a combination of allpass, stereo rotation, feedback, plus a filtering network (to make it frequency dependent through that freq knob)
It is perfectly mono compatible, no phase shifts, etc.
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- KVRAF
- 1888 posts since 13 Aug, 2011 from Berlin
Sure, you saw my smilie?quintosardo wrote:Well, with "trick" we mean something we can do with basic tools and manually, right?
Sounds very cool, no phase shift, mono compatible, right on!quintosardo wrote:This one is an algorithm.
It uses a combination of allpass, stereo rotation, feedback, plus a filtering network (to make it frequency dependent through that freq knob)
It is perfectly mono compatible, no phase shifts, etc.
When?
And a second when for the Tape update?
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- KVRian
- 588 posts since 23 Mar, 2010 from Canada
Is this a decorrelation-based Stereo Imager ?
Just like A.O.M. Stereo Imager D.
http://aom-factory.jp/products-page/daw ... -imager-d/
Just like A.O.M. Stereo Imager D.
http://aom-factory.jp/products-page/daw ... -imager-d/
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2432 posts since 15 Jul, 2004 from Italy
No, that one starts from stereo! Wants some side in the input signal.
This one starts from mono (or mixes to mono) and then fakes the stereo. It is not a stereo enhancer like a mid-side balance, it spreads the frequencies in the stereo panorama and in a frequency based way (e.g. mono bass and stereo highs)
This one starts from mono (or mixes to mono) and then fakes the stereo. It is not a stereo enhancer like a mid-side balance, it spreads the frequencies in the stereo panorama and in a frequency based way (e.g. mono bass and stereo highs)
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2432 posts since 15 Jul, 2004 from Italy
Here is a veeery nice example I received.
It is a mono loop.
It is a bit compressed (Bus) and through Roundtone, and it is translated to stereo by means of ThreeD.
It really gets life.
The files are roughly peak matched but the level is not the point.
Loop_dry
Loop_ThreeD
(Thanks J. Mateo!)
It is a mono loop.
It is a bit compressed (Bus) and through Roundtone, and it is translated to stereo by means of ThreeD.
It really gets life.
The files are roughly peak matched but the level is not the point.
Loop_dry
Loop_ThreeD
(Thanks J. Mateo!)