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Tricky-Loops · Post by **Tricky-Loops** » Tue May 29, 2012 4:16 pm

thecontrolcentre wrote:
osiris wrote:Onward and Jedward...

To stand Jedward there is much Whiskey needed...

tranel · Post by **tranel** » Wed May 30, 2012 1:48 am

Tricky-Loops wrote:
tranel wrote:
Tricky-Loops wrote:What bothers me really is that they have known before the voting that Sweden would win!! How can it be?? Is it a fraud?
Vi häv infiltreted da glåbal mjoosik scene and jo vill lörn to lajk aor mjoosik. Resistans is fjootajl.
Kommer Japansk musik också från Sverige?

All musik kommmer ifrån Sverige. De första människorna förde den med sig när de spred sig över världen. Det finns tydliga arkeologiska bevis på att människans urhem låg någonstans norr om Eslöv.

GaryG · Post by **GaryG** » Wed May 30, 2012 11:28 am

Tricky-Loops wrote:However, nevertheless they had more "style" than "your" UK contribution by Engelbert Humperdinck...

If you can look at Jedward and think "style" in the slightest then, well, you have my sympathies.

lotus2035 wrote:On the other hand, Ireland is broke right now, that has to be why they sent Jedward 2 years in a row.

osiris · Post by **osiris** » Wed May 30, 2012 11:47 am

EEeep. Jedward has nothing on Lady Gaga. They look like extras from a Saturday morning TV show we had in my youth called Far Out Space Nuts. I'll try and find a pic..

osiris · Post by **osiris** » Wed May 30, 2012 11:49 am

I'm sorry. It was called The Lost Saucer...

Tricky-Loops · Post by **Tricky-Loops** » Wed May 30, 2012 12:07 pm

tranel wrote:
Tricky-Loops wrote:
tranel wrote:
Tricky-Loops wrote:What bothers me really is that they have known before the voting that Sweden would win!! How can it be?? Is it a fraud?
Vi häv infiltreted da glåbal mjoosik scene and jo vill lörn to lajk aor mjoosik. Resistans is fjootajl.
Kommer Japansk musik också från Sverige?
All musik kommmer ifrån Sverige. De första människorna förde den med sig när de spred sig över världen. Det finns tydliga arkeologiska bevis på att människans urhem låg någonstans norr om Eslöv.

Maybe the first Swedish musicians have played with flintstones...

But in Germany some musicians invented Kraftwerk and without Kraftwerk there would be no electronic music (because there would be no power)!!

Tricky-Loops · Post by **Tricky-Loops** » Wed May 30, 2012 12:16 pm

osiris wrote:I'm sorry. It was called The Lost Saucer...

They should have had a better haircutter...

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Wed May 30, 2012 12:21 pm

osiris wrote:
EEeep. Jedward has nothing on Lady Gaga. They look like extras from a Saturday morning TV show we had in my youth called Far Out Space Nuts. I'll try and find a pic..

there was a series on over here, where jedward where filmed at home, living in a flat, oh my god, funny as f**k. musically obviously not much to say, but as people they are funny, even if they dont realise it

osiris · Post by **osiris** » Wed May 30, 2012 1:10 pm

That show was from the 70's, so that WAS a good haircut back then. I would LOVE to see the Jedward show. It couldn't have been as good as Flight Of The Conchords, though.

GaryG · Post by **GaryG** » Wed May 30, 2012 8:49 pm

I think the show Vurts referring to was a reality, fly on the wall thing not an intentional comedy...

I liked this ad they did with Omid Djalili:

though mainly for Omid Djalili...

Not sure if they're actually a little smarter than they appear or just have good management.

V'ger · Post by **V'ger** » Wed May 30, 2012 9:57 pm

Hat's off to Swedish song-writing prowess, but I've always felt the point of nations competing with songs is that they actually originated from the country, so wish there would be a rule about it soon.

It would surely end Azerbadjan's streak of top placings, but so what, let's hear some Azerbadjani songs then. Sooner or later they might anyway realize we would actually dig one with proper eastern flavor (done honestly and without frills) once everyone is tired of the western ones.

Tricky-Loops · Post by **Tricky-Loops** » Wed May 30, 2012 10:26 pm

V'ger wrote:Hat's off to Swedish song-writing prowess, but I've always felt the point of nations competing with songs is that they actually originated from the country, so wish there would be a rule about it soon.

It would surely end Azerbadjan's streak of top placings, but so what, let's hear some Azerbadjani songs then. Sooner or later they might anyway realize we would actually dig one with proper eastern flavor (done honestly and without frills) once everyone is tired of the western ones.

So right! Decades ago the songs of the Eurovision Song Contest were in the language of the respective country, and I loved it simply because I could hear DIFFERENT music from other countries and explore new (music) cultures.

Today everything has to be sung in English and everything sounds similar - even the Turkish singer is damned to sing in (exerted) English to an oriental flavored tune. Nowadays, in soccer clubs, players of other countries are purchased (depending on the available amount of money), and so is in the Eurovision Song Contest (songs are purchased from other countries).

It's so interchangeable that I swear every year, I will never watch it, but then I watch it again in the hope to find some special, unique songs.

V'ger · Post by **V'ger** » Wed May 30, 2012 11:02 pm

I used to feel that it should be in native tongue too, but now i dont mind either way. After all, some songs have amazing lyrics that lifts it like f.i. this: (which turned out too gloomy for ESC and didnt make it out of semi)

Some countries have crappy lyrics which is painfully revealed if in English, but if done in a language i dont understand I can imagine it to be mystic and great. Check out this from Estonia: (is Estonian the world's coolest language?)

And this one with an imaginary language that came 2nd:

But notice that Serbia got 3rd this time without any English, so there is a definite trend that European countries are getting more and more proud and might lose the urge to always use English.

Tricky-Loops · Post by **Tricky-Loops** » Wed May 30, 2012 11:17 pm

V'ger wrote:But notice that Serbia got 3rd this time without any English, so there is a definite trend that European countries are getting more and more proud and might lose the urge to always use English.

I admire the tenacity of the Serbian singers. At every Eurovision Contest they sing in Serbian as it would be the most normal thing of the world...

I hope that more people are following them with their native tongue...because I like other languages, they all have something interesting and mirror the culture of the country.

seismic1 · Post by **seismic1** » Wed May 30, 2012 11:59 pm

V'ger wrote:I've always felt the point of nations competing with songs is that they actually originated from the country, so wish there would be a rule about it soon.

Is it completely ridiculous to suggest that some countries might even consider changing their national language in order to achieve international acceptance on the Eurovision stage? I realise that this question may appear to be ludicrous on a superficial level but think about the implications (not only within the ESC sphere of influence).

Once "rules" are introduced, the once quaint idea behind the ESC becomes tainted and any pretence that the competition is a "fun" event will be lost forever.

BTW, I'm not disagreeing with your wish. I support it. I just don't think it is enforceable.

I haven't even mentioned bloc-voting

Eurovision...