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VariKusBrainZ · Post by **VariKusBrainZ** » Thu May 31, 2012 1:08 pm

DuX wrote: Making the DAW dependant of their server 100% is not really a great idea.

+1

Didnt realise that when I downloaded it. I have no internet at home so thats me out.

At least I wont be tempted to drop money on this now

xamido · Post by **xamido** » Thu May 31, 2012 1:14 pm

It just occur to me that this DAW is perfect for online training. People can follow an instructor work really fast (if they can make the connection more stable and faster).

UncleAge · Post by **UncleAge** » Thu May 31, 2012 1:57 pm

gpunk wrote:After trying this out for a while, gotta say that it is pretty much a letdown right now
Very slow (And i mean veeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrry slooooooooooooooow)

I think the integration of a must-have internet connection will pretty much guarantee that everyone will walk away with varied results. Possibly from session to session. Seems a bit risky to hang everything on that one peg. For instance while I had similar results to you when trying to log in one time the other times were painless. And I didn't experience any slow down whatsoever while inside a project. It was as if it was all local. However, I'd like to try out the collab features at least one time to see if there's any hiccups involved.

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Thu May 31, 2012 3:34 pm

I think making it online-only would be acceptable if that's the sole purpose of this DAW - online collaboration - and if the connection is fast and smooth.

And I hope you don't have to be collaborating with someone merely to access your mixes, though!

christianmusicmaker · Post by **christianmusicmaker** » Thu May 31, 2012 3:55 pm

Another problem with online only access is ISP's and acess times. It is very likely that certain times of the day will be easier / faster than other times of the day with ISP's possibly throttling bandwidth at peak times.

Ohmforce just open a really great and promising DAW to Internet bandwidth issues. No need. Maybe a 1.5 or version 2 release can solve this problem. or as bduffy suggest a "fast and smooth" connection. It appears it has to be extremely fast to satisfy all users but that still will not solve the issue for people who still want to work offline like me.

Talk less of people who like the idea, look and feel of Ohm studio but do not connect their DAW to the Internet. They will likely step right over this promising DAW.

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Thu May 31, 2012 4:00 pm

christianmusicmaker wrote:Another problem with online only access is ISP's and acess times. It is very likely that certain times of the day will be easier / faster than other times of the day with ISP's possibly throttling bandwidth at peak times.

Ohmforce just open a really great and promising DAW to Internet bandwidth issues. No need. Maybe a 1.5 or version 2 release can solve this problem. or as bduffy suggest a "fast and smooth" connection. It appears it has to be extremely fast to satisfy all users but that still will not solve the issue for people who still want to work offline like me.

Talk less of people who like the idea, look and feel of Ohm studio but do not connect their DAW to the Internet. They will likely step right over this promising DAW.

I would assume that no-internet DAW users wouldn't even look at something like this. Again, it all depends if Ohm are thinking of marketing this as a full-blown DAW solution to compete with the Big Boys, or just a niche, online-collaboration app.

Fire Sledge - Ohm Force · Thu May 31, 2012 4:17 pm

christianmusicmaker wrote:It appears it has to be extremely fast to satisfy all users

No. The current slowdowns are caused by our servers being overloaded, not your connection speed. We need a moment to optimize our services for heavy load, which becomes possible with this open beta.

sjm · Post by **sjm** » Thu May 31, 2012 4:35 pm

It's a great idea, but an offline mode really makes sense - especially to reduce unnecessary load on the servers. When I collaborate with people (face to face) one of us tends to keep working on the project when the others have left. At this point in time when you're working alone, there's no need to hog the resources you don't need when others do.

So you'd only really need to be online when several people are working on the project at once. When working alone, you'd want the means to upload the project once you're done for the day so that others can continue working on the latest version. And maybe a notification if one of the other collaborators comes online; but no need to constantly be sending "loads" of data through the ether.

What I really like about the idea is that when you're collaborating face to face, only one person can be sitting at the PC, so there are times when you're doing naught but twiddling your thumbs and waiting. Making it so that one person can tweak one part and another person work on something else looks really appealing.

Disclaimer: I haven't actually tried the program yet, but the video was promising.

christianmusicmaker · Post by **christianmusicmaker** » Thu May 31, 2012 4:40 pm

bduffy wrote:I would assume that no-internet DAW users wouldn't even look at something like this. Again, it all depends if Ohm are thinking of marketing this as a full-blown DAW solution to compete with the Big Boys, or just a niche, online-collaboration app.

I think they would really like it to compete with the bigger DAW's out there and it appears to have a unique selling point and some fresh ideas but yes...if the expectations are not so lofty from the devs then maybe it is not so important for them (yet). They at least appear interested in the issue and are looking to at least hear and respond to suggestions. I just hope it is not too long between now and an offline version.It definitely has promise.

Fire Sledge - Ohm Force wrote:
christianmusicmaker wrote:It appears it has to be extremely fast to satisfy all users
No. The current slowdowns are caused by our servers being overloaded, not your connection speed. We need a moment to optimize our services for heavy load, which becomes possible with this open beta.

Cool. That will at least help with online issues.

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Thu May 31, 2012 4:43 pm

christianmusicmaker wrote:
bduffy wrote:I would assume that no-internet DAW users wouldn't even look at something like this. Again, it all depends if Ohm are thinking of marketing this as a full-blown DAW solution to compete with the Big Boys, or just a niche, online-collaboration app.
I think they would really like it to compete with the bigger DAW's out there and it appears to have a unique selling point and some fresh ideas but yes...if the expectations are not so lofty from the devs then maybe it is not so important for them (yet). They at least appear interested in the issue and are looking to at least hear and respond to suggestions. I just hope it is not too long between now and an offline version.It definitely has promise.

Fire Sledge - Ohm Force wrote:
christianmusicmaker wrote:It appears it has to be extremely fast to satisfy all users
No. The current slowdowns are caused by our servers being overloaded, not your connection speed. We need a moment to optimize our services for heavy load, which becomes possible with this open beta.
Cool. That will at least help with online issues.

Agreed. I'm rather excited about it, considering its pedigree and potential. I will be keeping a close eye on this thread...

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Thu May 31, 2012 4:44 pm

VariKusBrainZ wrote:
DuX wrote: Making the DAW dependant of their server 100% is not really a great idea.
+1

Didnt realise that when I downloaded it. I have no internet at home so thats me out.

At least I wont be tempted to drop money on this now

+1

This pretty much kills it for me. Was hoping to be able to use OhmStudio to collaborate and help the community with mixing/mastering but because our main DAW is not connected to the internet (and never will be) I am unable to use the studio room which kind of makes it pointless.

As a fun musical collaboration it could still work. Our secondary DAW will be connected and my laptop is mostly connected as well.

A real shame about the lack of offline mode though. I have high hopes for the future of collaborated projects in FL Studio though. It seems much more comprehensive at the moment.

Cheers!
bManic

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Thu May 31, 2012 5:58 pm

Fire Sledge - Ohm Force wrote:
christianmusicmaker wrote:It appears it has to be extremely fast to satisfy all users
No. The current slowdowns are caused by our servers being overloaded, not your connection speed. We need a moment to optimize our services for heavy load, which becomes possible with this open beta.

Yeah I guess that's part of the point of this beta, to gauge the hit on the servers and adjust them accordingly.

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Thu May 31, 2012 6:00 pm

Yeah, we probably shouldn't be too hard on the Ohmboyz right now. Unless they like that.

b-pole · Post by **b-pole** » Thu May 31, 2012 6:49 pm

I registered for Beta and downloaded already.

Nevertheless I am waiting for more feedback before I do the "risk".

JD Gaffe · Post by **JD Gaffe** » Thu May 31, 2012 7:14 pm

b-pole wrote:I registered for Beta and downloaded already.

Nevertheless I am waiting for more feedback before I do the "risk".

Couldn't you just.. use it and make up your own opinion?

Ohm Studio - Open for everybody (beta)