AmenTeksonik wrote:The mistake people make in these "Sounds like a Virus" threads is they tend to want a comparison to only one vsti. I've just had a play with Alchemy ( a much under rated synth when it comes to this type of sound) with Dune, Sylenth1, plus Z3ta 2 and the sound was beyond glorious. If you think of each plugin as an "oscillator" in a larger instrument and your computer as a hardware synth the sounds you can get by layering and stacking plugins is phenomenal. Does any one vsti sound exactly like a Virus? That's debatable but if you start layering some of the great soft synths available on the market now the edge has to go with the computer based synth over the dedicated box synth especially when price becomes a factor even when taking into consideration the cost of a good cpu/soundcard/midi controller keyboard.......all in my opinion of course.....
Trying to stay away from buying virus ti any soft synths sound as good or better?
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- KVRist
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- 188 posts since 6 Aug, 2007 from USA
So does zebra is in the same sound category as diva? What's yup with zeta3?mcnoone wrote:With more flooring to come actually.pzhuravel wrote:After listening to diva I'm completely floored. I'm def checking out the rest of their products.
It's just a start.
You certainly got the system specs to run it with no cpu problems as well.
edit:If you try Zebra, it can load presets.
You can get a lot of them here.
http://www.u-he.com/PatchLib/zebra.html
And I agree absolutely I use alchemy on just about every track it's a beutiful thing:)
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- KVRAF
- 1796 posts since 4 Sep, 2011 from England
Diva is an emulation of the best real analog gear moduals added onto some nice analog effects. Zebra doesn't do the analog simulation as close but Zebra can do any sound it has more features and waveforms. Zebra was used for most of the music and some sound effects in the movie Inception by Hans Zimmer the presets were made by Howard Scarr who makes many of the presets in Zebra and Diva. Zebra might get Divas filters in the future I think it will kill the Virus when that happens.
Using a similar super saw with both and playing both at the same time has given me the best super saw pad I have ever heard.
I also use Z3ta+2 to me it sounds great but diferent run it through a saturation plugin like Decapitator and it sounds a bit Virus it's not better than Zebra or Diva but it nice to have to get some sounds. I prefair preset making with Zebra and Diva.
Using a similar super saw with both and playing both at the same time has given me the best super saw pad I have ever heard.
I also use Z3ta+2 to me it sounds great but diferent run it through a saturation plugin like Decapitator and it sounds a bit Virus it's not better than Zebra or Diva but it nice to have to get some sounds. I prefair preset making with Zebra and Diva.
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Honest I've never thought of u-he as a serious player in the industry. But I suppose I'm wrong.. Do they ever have sales?Kaboom75 wrote:Diva is an emulation of the best real analog gear moduals added onto some nice analog effects. Zebra doesn't do the analog simulation as close but Zebra can do any sound it has more features and waveforms. Zebra was used for most of the music and some sound effects in the movie Inception by Hans Zimmer the presets were made by Howard Scarr who makes many of the presets in Zebra and Diva. Zebra might get Divas filters in the future I think it will kill the Virus when that happens.
Using a similar super saw with both and playing both at the same time has given me the best super saw pad I have ever heard.
Mac pro 12 core,ULN8,Burl B2bomber,UAD Octo,Dramastic Obsedian,Avedis md7m Access virus TI, Moog Little Phatty, Roland JDXA. And Oodles of useless samples
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Well Zebra uses more different kinds of synthesis methods.pzhuravel wrote:So does zebra is in the same sound category as diva?
It is capable of a wider variety of sounds because of this.
It can come pretty close to some things that Diva can do, as far as subtractive analog sounds, but not quite. Although that may change somewhat later.
It does the good digital style sounds best though.
Great pads, morphing sounds, and acoustical sounding things...bellish tones too.
Layered sounds, and some great spooky atmospheric sounds.
It's fx, and analogue modeling are not as good as in Diva though.
I've got a free set below in my sig, that will give you a good idea of it's diverse nature.
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- KVRAF
- 1796 posts since 4 Sep, 2011 from England
Don't think they do sale. They sell a synth cheaper while it's in beta and full of bugs. For the price though and the sound they offer I feel like I robed them paying full price. You need to check out ACE too it's not my go to for pads and poly but it has crazy nice leads, bass and plucks. That will get updated to.
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- KVRAF
- 5948 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Melbourne, Australia
U-he is most definitely a "serious player" in the world of soft synths and effects.pzhuravel wrote:Honest I've never thought of u-he as a serious player in the industry. But I suppose I'm wrong.. Do they ever have sales?
The only time you'll see U-he software at a discount is when the software is first released, usually used as an advanced beta testing testing period. After that, the prices is full price and will not change. No sales, no group buys.
There is a "dinosaur cross-grade offer" for Zebra if you send a photo in (probably some info about this on the website somewhere).
There are also several free plugins about including TyrellN6 (precursor to Diva) and Bazille (modular synth beast).
Peace,
Andy.
... space is the place ...
- KVRAF
- 2488 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from Sydney, Australia
Only 3 posts until someone suggested DIVA 
Now I LOVE DIVA but unless you have a fast computer to bounce off parts it can be a frustrating workflow.
Even in draft mode some pads can be CPU intensive.
Now I LOVE DIVA but unless you have a fast computer to bounce off parts it can be a frustrating workflow.
Even in draft mode some pads can be CPU intensive.
Cowbells!
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- 188 posts since 6 Aug, 2007 from USA
I told my wife to stay with her parents this weekend I'm getting diva and zebra Tonight:)dalor wrote:Only 3 posts until someone suggested DIVA
Now I LOVE DIVA but unless you have a fast computer to bounce off parts it can be a frustrating workflow.
Even in draft mode some pads can be CPU intensive.
Mac pro 12 core,ULN8,Burl B2bomber,UAD Octo,Dramastic Obsedian,Avedis md7m Access virus TI, Moog Little Phatty, Roland JDXA. And Oodles of useless samples
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- 2686 posts since 5 Feb, 2004 from Nevada City, California
remember that Diva has gone 1.1 with multi-threading!
i still have my virus powercore - i used both things in my last project - Diva is by far the better sounding, more versatile instrument in many ways - the Virus has a signature sound and does a lot more digital graininess. but, i would not spend $1000+ on a hardware synth with less power than Diva at $179..
i will be watching the TI line for a fully integrated VST - i don't like how much happens in real-time where my old powercore renders just like a VST..
i still have my virus powercore - i used both things in my last project - Diva is by far the better sounding, more versatile instrument in many ways - the Virus has a signature sound and does a lot more digital graininess. but, i would not spend $1000+ on a hardware synth with less power than Diva at $179..
i will be watching the TI line for a fully integrated VST - i don't like how much happens in real-time where my old powercore renders just like a VST..
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I'm sure my 12 core will be just fine:)dalor wrote:Only 3 posts until someone suggested DIVA
Now I LOVE DIVA but unless you have a fast computer to bounce off parts it can be a frustrating workflow.
Even in draft mode some pads can be CPU intensive.
Mac pro 12 core,ULN8,Burl B2bomber,UAD Octo,Dramastic Obsedian,Avedis md7m Access virus TI, Moog Little Phatty, Roland JDXA. And Oodles of useless samples
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Got out of my poco because I moved Mac pro from ppc and didn't care for poco platform any longerford442 wrote:remember that Diva has gone 1.1 with multi-threading!
i still have my virus powercore - i used both things in my last project - Diva is by far the better sounding, more versatile instrument in many ways - the Virus has a signature sound and does a lot more digital graininess. but, i would not spend $1000+ on a hardware synth with less power than Diva at $179..
i will be watching the TI line for a fully integrated VST - i don't like how much happens in real-time where my old powercore renders just like a VST..
Mac pro 12 core,ULN8,Burl B2bomber,UAD Octo,Dramastic Obsedian,Avedis md7m Access virus TI, Moog Little Phatty, Roland JDXA. And Oodles of useless samples
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That's great.pzhuravel wrote:I told my wife to stay with her parents this weekend I'm getting diva and zebra Tonight:)
I'm pretty sure you won't be disappointed.
Check the manuals out too, as things can be a bit complex at first.
Run through a lot of presets, and see what was done to make them.
Don't forget to eat, and go to the bathroom on occasion.
Losing track of time is a common side effect from those synths.
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- KVRist
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- 188 posts since 6 Aug, 2007 from USA
Thank You very much I know the bathrooms are highly overrated in these situations as far as food goes one could always lose a little extra weight:)mcnoone wrote:That's great.pzhuravel wrote:I told my wife to stay with her parents this weekend I'm getting diva and zebra Tonight:)
I'm pretty sure you won't be disappointed.
Check the manuals out too, as things can be a bit complex at first.
Run through a lot of presets, and see what was done to make them.
Don't forget to eat, and go to the bathroom on occasion.
Losing track of time is a common side effect from those synths.
Mac pro 12 core,ULN8,Burl B2bomber,UAD Octo,Dramastic Obsedian,Avedis md7m Access virus TI, Moog Little Phatty, Roland JDXA. And Oodles of useless samples
- KVRAF
- 3303 posts since 27 Mar, 2010 from UK
Absolutely. Buy a Virus and then buy all the plugins...you wont miss outTeksonik wrote:Yep there it is....didn't take long. My response to these daily threads from now on will be just buy a Virus and leave us alone.....MFXxx wrote:Nothing in the virtual scene matches the sound
