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george · Post by **george** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:37 am

http://www.musicradar.com/news/tech/int ... cer-546858

What about software synths and the like...

"They're on there and I have a play with them, but they all sound a bit samey - metallic and twangy. Sure, you can get the most incredibly complex noises coming out of them, but they don't really inspire me. I know I'm not the first person to say this, but we're getting to a point where everyone is going to have an unlimited musical palette.

If you want a certain bass sound, you can just pull it from the internet. If you want a sound that goes wow-woooh-widdly-widdly, you can find it onMassive. I don't need all that. I don't need all the fireworks of digital music. All the clever-clever glitchy-ness. I get a bit bored by it. I was cutting up samples 20 years ago. I want to go somewhere else.

ariston · Post by **ariston** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:45 am

It's funny... reading this has made me realize that it's never musical instruments that inspire me. I get inspired by people, occurrences, little things in daily life, nature. The instrument is just a tool to get the music that's in my head out there.

He also said this, by the way:

"Look... please don't make me out to be a moaning old Luddite who doesn't want to change. Yes, I am a bit of a moaning old Luddite, but I'm not against 'change' per se. I don't think that the Atari and the Akai are the only legitimate tools to make music. Ableton is a fantastic piece of kit. I just haven't found a way to link my creative urges to working with a laptop. It'll come. I'm almost there."

Ross Baron · Post by **Ross Baron** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:19 pm

Don't want to be too negative, but is there any relevance to Fatboy Slim now? He's done some great things in the past, and deserves full credits for that, but now it's 2012 and I haven't seen any bigbeat revival party yet...luckily.
Maybe I'm wrong, but what was the last great record from him? Produced in a time when we all used atari's? Time flies....

waltercruz · Post by **waltercruz** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:38 pm

sometimes i get inspired by a speficif patch... or a loop.. or by another song itself

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:04 pm

Is it Fatboy or Fanboy Slim?

Doesn't Norman still use Cubase with Atari ST, I guess on that platform software synthesis is not so developed

standalone · Post by **standalone** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:16 pm

Ross Baron wrote:Don't want to be too negative, but is there any relevance to Fatboy Slim now? He's done some great things in the past, and deserves full credits for that, but now it's 2012 and I haven't seen any bigbeat revival party yet...luckily.
Maybe I'm wrong, but what was the last great record from him? Produced in a time when we all used atari's? Time flies....

A very sad way to try to discredit his opinion.

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:36 pm

mr president wrote:
george wrote:http://www.musicradar.com/news/tech/int ... cer-546858

What about software synths and the like...

"They're on there and I have a play with them, but they all sound a bit samey - metallic and twangy. Sure, you can get the most incredibly complex noises coming out of them, but they don't really inspire me. I know I'm not the first person to say this, but we're getting to a point where everyone is going to have an unlimited musical palette.

If you want a certain bass sound, you can just pull it from the internet. If you want a sound that goes wow-woooh-widdly-widdly, you can find it onMassive. I don't need all that. I don't need all the fireworks of digital music. All the clever-clever glitchy-ness. I get a bit bored by it. I was cutting up samples 20 years ago. I want to go somewhere else.
Once upon a time when dinosaurs walked the Earth and man was no more than a little piece of slime swimming along in the vastness of the great ocean deep

I don't remember there being dinosaurs walking the earth 20 years ago (apart from prog rock dinosaurs of course).

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:39 pm

i learned it doesnt matter and the hardware vs. software blabbering gets on my nerves so i normally dont talk about it anymore, some people (seem) to know what is made with hardware and some not, in the end who cares if the music is great?
makes no one better, people use in the end with what their workflow goes best.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:48 pm

Caine123 wrote:i learned it doesnt matter and the hardware vs. software blabbering gets on my nerves so i normally dont talk about it anymore, some people (seem) to know what is made with hardware and some not, in the end who cares if the music is great?
makes no one better, people use in the end with what their workflow goes best.

Amen

Ross Baron · Post by **Ross Baron** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:50 pm

standalone wrote:
Ross Baron wrote:Don't want to be too negative, but is there any relevance to Fatboy Slim now? He's done some great things in the past, and deserves full credits for that, but now it's 2012 and I haven't seen any bigbeat revival party yet...luckily.
Maybe I'm wrong, but what was the last great record from him? Produced in a time when we all used atari's? Time flies....
A very sad way to try to discredit his opinion.

No dissing at all, just placing questionmarks on his relevance on this subject. I do have an other opinion on this, and given the numerous releases made with "digital sounds" "taken from the internet" that do a great job on dancefloors I am doubting his opinion. Especially since I haven't heard a proper tune from him long time.

Metanol · Post by **Metanol** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:31 pm

What about software synths and the like...

"They're on there and I have a play with them, but they all sound a bit samey - metallic and twangy. Sure, you can get the most incredibly complex noises coming out of them, but they don't really inspire me.

If they don't really inspire him, there are plenty of others who find them inspiring. Like Andrés Segovia wasn't really inspired by electric guitars.

afreshcupofjoe · Post by **afreshcupofjoe** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:32 pm

Ross Baron wrote: No dissing at all, just placing questionmarks on his relevance on this subject. I do have an other opinion on this, and given the numerous releases made with "digital sounds" "taken from the internet" that do a great job on dancefloors I am doubting his opinion. Especially since I haven't heard a proper tune from him long time.

What is there to doubt? Where did he ever claim that good music isn't being made with laptops and samples from the internet? He made no such argument. He's just a famous producer from a decade ago who is talking about his personal tastes in equipment and way of working. That's all it is. You are making this out to be some kind of argument that it most certainly is not.

It's basically like if Angus Young did an interview and said he didn't like the sound of Ibanez guitars, so you call his opinion invalid becasue clearly plenty of great albums have been made with Ibanez guitars, and he hasn't done anything great recently, so his opinion has no relevance. That would be a pretty stupid and pointless reaction, wouldn't it? Yet, when the subject of hardware vs software comes up, suddenly everyone gets all worked up. How dare someone say they don't like soft synths! They must be some kind of washed-up fool!

projectdan · Post by **projectdan** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:46 pm

If he gets great results from working the way he's used to of course he's best sticking with what works for him.
I'm agnostic about hardware and software, I use software on a PC but if there was a suitable workstation that didn't feel like too much of a compromise and loss compared to how I work now, I would probably use a workstation keyboard in the main.

Acid Mitch · Post by **Acid Mitch** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:51 pm

projectdan wrote:If he gets great results from working the way he's used to of course he's best sticking with what works for him.

The most interesting thing in the interview for me ,was that he only seems to be trying to switch because eveyone is telling him he has to , but it doesn't appear to be benefiting him in anyway.

Acid Mitch · Post by **Acid Mitch** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:55 pm

Ross Baron wrote:Don't want to be too negative, but is there any relevance to Fatboy Slim now?

Like almost every other artist , he never was releveant in certain circles. So he's as relevant now as he ever was.

Fatboy Slim thoughts about software synths