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Scott Murrell · Post by **Scott Murrell** » Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:23 pm

--Our band has had a continuous problem finding a guitarist who will and/or can learn the parts to the classic rock songs we're doing so we're going it without one but now I need to find a great lead and rhythm guitar sound. I have a bunch of apps and a lot of soundfonts but none offer the kind of guitar that we can be proud of. Do you guys have any suggestions?
P.s.- I'm not Jan Hammer or Rick Wakeman but I can play Eruption...LOL

Derek Buddemeyer · Post by **Derek Buddemeyer** » Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:37 pm

I use JamUp Pro for all things guitar....I've even used it for recording tracks on my album. Here's a sample of some new stuff I've done with it.
http://soundcloud.com/buddemeyer72/crush-fx-bass-04

Scott Murrell · Post by **Scott Murrell** » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:14 pm

---thanks for the suggestion, the sound and your playing is killer!

Scott Murrell · Post by **Scott Murrell** » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:20 pm

---I probably phrased my request wrong. I need something to simulate rock guitars from with my iPad. I can't play a guitar so whatever I get will have to be triggered from my midi keyboard...

Derek Buddemeyer · Post by **Derek Buddemeyer** » Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:10 pm

I think you can run your keyboard into your iPad with the JamUp Pro app and use the amps and effects....try the lite version first...it's free..just to see if it's compatible.

Scott Murrell · Post by **Scott Murrell** » Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:46 pm

---Great suggestion and I'll give it a try..
Thanks...

Xenobt · Post by **Xenobt** » Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:41 pm

Here's something else I found that may get the job done:

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/shredder ... 23166?mt=8

And of course, there's always the IOS versions of Sampletank which features some great guitar expansion libraries.

http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/sampletankipad/

KVR/eSoundz: Xenobt

DrApostropheX · Post by **DrApostropheX** » Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:50 pm

If you do go the SampleTank iOS route (and their sounds are very good), you might consider playing it with either GeoSynth or Cantor as the keyboard/fretboard layout of those apps may lend themselves to producing more credible guitar parts. I'll need to check and see if Cantor is compatible with SampleTank, though.

audiojunkie · Post by **audiojunkie** » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:48 pm

It looks like everyone does things differently, so I'll tell you my method:

I've found that Garageband for iOS has VERY playable Smart Instrument guitars. You've got acoustic, clean, rock and roots guitars. The rock guitar is too distorted for what I like, but the others by themselves aren't bad. What is REALLY cool though, is that I can create any guitar phrase I want, and then use either the acoustic or the clean guitar as my instrument to output my audio, and copy the phrase into AmpKit+ and tweak the sound to my heart's content. Then, I can export the result from AmpKit, and import it back into Garageband.

Even better, I can export my song (minus my guitar part), and then export my guitar part, and import both parts into ampkit (the song without the guitar part is played dry and in sync) and hear and mix my levels to the way I like them, all within Ampkit, and then export the amped part back into Garageband (or any other app) and finish with mixing. Either way, it gives a FAR SUPERIOR guitar sound quality to just about any other combination on the iOS, with the exception of being an actual guitar player and actually recording the guitar playing live. If you don't or can't play guitar (or even if you do), Garageband's Smart instruments + AmpKit+ is a REALLY tough combo to beat.

--Sean

Guaranath · Post by **Guaranath** » Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:35 pm

The Sampletank + Cantor/Geo idea sounds like a cool notion. I don't own SampleTank so I don't know about the compatibility there, but I know it is not one of the apps that supports the pitch-bends in a lead line over held chords or pitch-bends within a polyphony group. Not sure if you would need those capabilities for what you are doing...

However, Thumbjam does support those capabilities and, it is pretty easy to multi-sample an instrument from an app or a PC/Mac plugin and assemble your own instrument in Thumbjam. This takes a little bit of investment to learn, but once I got it down I can generally throw together any instrument I want in 30min. This way you also get some the tasty reverb and delay options in Thumbjam. And if you use Cantor for this you get good velocity and aftertouch controls!

Scott Murrell · Post by **Scott Murrell** » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:09 am

---thanks for all of the help, it's appreciated. I did try GB and the rock sound was just too distorted but maybe if I used an external effects box or wah wah pedal? It's a shame that you can't process the sound in GB through one of the guitar effects apps...A lot of great suggestions to try...

audiojunkie · Post by **audiojunkie** » Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:57 pm

Scott Murrell wrote:---thanks for all of the help, it's appreciated. I did try GB and the rock sound was just too distorted but maybe if I used an external effects box or wah wah pedal? It's a shame that you can't process the sound in GB through one of the guitar effects apps...A lot of great suggestions to try...

Maybe I'm wrong, but I get the feeling you may have misunderstood the point I was making. The guitar sound was too distorted for me too. That's why I used the clean guitar that is in Garageband, and then copied the audio phrase to AmpKit and processed it to sound the way I like it, and then transferred the phrase (that has it's effects the way I like it) back. Ampkit is an app on the ipad. Everything is done within the ipad. It's just like you are saying--processing the GB audio through a guitar effects app.

--Sean

Help wanted with guitar sounds