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Aiynzahev · Post by **Aiynzahev** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:08 am

Okay, if the op is reading you must try ElectraX. It's the only soft synth I know of that has a hyper-saw (which is one of the things the TI is famous for) rather than just a unison and it sounds really.. really good!

It's got wavetables and a whole shaboudle. Check it out because I've always thought of it as the closest to the TI in software, however I've not got a TI and other synths can do similar things like Zebra and Massive.

I don't know. Try them out but trying out Electrax is harder because its a pretty cripped demo.

pzhuravel · Post by **pzhuravel** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:12 am

Aiynzahev wrote:Okay, if the op is reading you must try ElectraX. It's the only soft synth I know of that has a hyper-saw (which is one of the things the TI is famous for) rather than just a unison and it sounds really.. really good!

It's got wavetables and a whole shaboudle. Check it out because I've always thought of it as the closest to the TI in software, however I've not got a TI and other synths can do similar things like Zebra and Massive.

I don't know. Try them out but trying out Electrax is harder because its a pretty cripped demo.

I'll check it out but it will be hard to beat diva and zebra

IrionDaRonin · Post by **IrionDaRonin** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:04 am

As far i know.

- Synthmaster 2.5.
- ANA.
- Zeta 1 or 2.
- Sylenth.

Have a good day

Aiynzahev · Post by **Aiynzahev** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:12 am

pzhuravel wrote:
Aiynzahev wrote:Okay, if the op is reading you must try ElectraX. It's the only soft synth I know of that has a hyper-saw (which is one of the things the TI is famous for) rather than just a unison and it sounds really.. really good!

It's got wavetables and a whole shaboudle. Check it out because I've always thought of it as the closest to the TI in software, however I've not got a TI and other synths can do similar things like Zebra and Massive.

I don't know. Try them out but trying out Electrax is harder because its a pretty cripped demo.
I'll check it out but it will be hard to beat diva and zebra

Well, lets pause a moment. What kind of sounds are you looking for? Can you post us a link to a youtube track with a lot of the sounds you are after?

Virus is not first choice for analog sounds, neither is ElectraX. DIVA yes, and more so than Zebra which is more modern sounding. Corona has a really really nice filter section now. If its analog sounds you want you must must check it out also.

None of these though besides Corona and sometimes DIVA really makes me feel like I am playing an analog synth. Others may have a different opinion. Give me a Moog LP any day. But Corona actually feels like I have a different analog flavour in the box. And no I am not their new sales boy.

I am going to upload a silly demo to show the filter on soundcloud, which you should download to hear proper quality

I am not saying its better than DIVA a such since they do different things, but it is a different flavour.

Horrible demo
http://soundcloud.com/aiyn-zahev/corona-demo

But at least you hear the filter

mr president · Post by **mr president** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:09 pm

KARMAFX SYNTH MODULAR _ I heard in many a magazine that it was as close to a virus as you could get in terms of soundwise. Sure, its got a processor hit on some patches but the sound is really something. Never heard a virus but ive tried this when it was in beta shareware a few years ago and id recommend at least giving the demo a try

Richard_Synapse · Post by **Richard_Synapse** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:48 pm

zerocrossing wrote:If you don't love the sound of a Virus there are lots and lots of software synths out there that'll easily take it's place. As other's mentioned you can get close with Dune, Corona, Sylenth1, Zebra 2, etc. All of those will give you some pretty kick-ass sounds. However, I bet if you really ran them though their paces next to an actual Virus you'd find them all lacking in some ways... maybe better in others. Same? Not really.

True, there's still a couple nice and unique tricks that some hardware synths are capable of, but on the other hand the same is true for software- e.g. in Dune the ability to modulate each unison voice, which allows for a much greater flexibility. Moreover, the quality of algorithms employed in software is rapidly getting better, I think hardware will have a hard time competing with that.

Richard

Phil Sonic Academy · Post by **Phil Sonic Academy** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:53 pm

I used to have the powercore Virus... was never really impressed. Think its based on a virus B and dosnt have a decent super/hypersaw.

I also never liked the filters that much.

Have a listen to some of the ANA demos...

http://soundcloud.com/philterino-1/sets ... -ana-demos

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:38 pm

Aiynzahev wrote:Okay, if the op is reading you must try ElectraX. It's the only soft synth I know of that has a hyper-saw (which is one of the things the TI is famous for) rather than just a unison and it sounds really.. really good!

Dune has it, you should know that

Aiynzahev · Post by **Aiynzahev** » Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:18 pm

Kriminal wrote:
Aiynzahev wrote:Okay, if the op is reading you must try ElectraX. It's the only soft synth I know of that has a hyper-saw (which is one of the things the TI is famous for) rather than just a unison and it sounds really.. really good!
Dune has it, you should know that

Well Dunes FAT mode gives you 7 detuned saws per OSC of which there are two. Times 8 Unison.

14*8 = 112. Then if you want to count the sub osc thats another 8 giving 120 total.

The Virus' hypersaw however is up to 9 saws per osc (2) + sub saw. Thats 19 per note. You then have a unison of 16 that can be applied. Thats 304 saws per voice.

Elextrax gives you 10 per osc with their ultrasaw (which is not stereo spreadable) with 3 oscs per voice giving you 30. Across 4 layers thats 120 per voice (like DUNE). However I jut realized that unlike their other synths Electrax has no unsion feature!I thought it had it.

Mind you, Zebra has 11 per osc.

But do you really need all those saws? A man can never have too many saws..

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:57 am

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pzhuravel · Post by **pzhuravel** » Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:00 am

ttoz wrote:
pzhuravel wrote:
ttoz wrote:wont read through all of this but the virus does not sound analog.. so you are after either the virus sound OR analog.. if latter there are better options
What are those better options you speak of?
what i meant was if you wanted an ANALOG sound there were better options..
obviously diva

and surprisingly this has not been mentioned yet but Synthix and PolyKb from xils-lab.com

please check those two out!!!

if you truly want the virus sound, there is one real option.

buy a virus.

The whole point of this topic was to avoid doing so but this weekend my buddy is bringing his over and I'll have a weekend to play with it. But from what he told me and he knows what I'm looking for virus may not be what I want.. Diva
Most likely is

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:26 am

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pzhuravel · Post by **pzhuravel** » Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:31 am

ttoz wrote:please do check the xils stuff as well. completely different to diva,.

my sincere advise is to grab diva and synthix.

if you were considering spending the money on the virus you can get these two and still have change to spare.

i have a feeling you will really love the synthix!!

I'll get the demo thank you sir. I'm also picking up zebra.. Trying it out and it sounds stunning as well

Aiynzahev · Post by **Aiynzahev** » Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:31 am

Well just one more thing, you know if you wan't analog sound and you were going to buy a virus at what $900 for the snow? You can pick up a DSI Mopho or Tetra with 4 voices or a Moog synth for that money.

Then you will have the real deal!

+1 for Zebra though it is stunning.

pzhuravel · Post by **pzhuravel** » Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:36 am

Aiynzahev wrote:Well just one more thing, you know if you wan't analog sound and you were going to buy a virus at what $900 for the snow? You can pick up a DSI Mopho or Tetra with 4 voices or a Moog synth for that money.

Then you will have the real deal!

+1 for Zebra though it is stunning.

Again

by analog I ment organic and warm not nessesraly moogy. Although I like the warm nature of analog sound it isn't my only priority. I'm looking for something that sounds lush warm and organic sort of speak.. I know ti is able to provide that being a long user of virus powercore. I no longer have it and was looking for something like it. Being that virus is a va instrument I figured there are vi's that will be able to compete and zebra along with deva is so far the only vi's that I have found to be able to come very close to what I'm looking though not nessesraly being a virus but they have many things I'm looking for in a synth. I think sylenth will be another one of the contenders. I bought dcam recently and it is a good one as well but not everything im looking for.. Hope you guys get a better idea of what it is I'm trying to find..

Trying to stay away from buying virus ti any soft synths sound as good or better?