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jimmygfactory · Post by **jimmygfactory** » Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:39 pm

I've been on multiple forums lately, and it appears nobody knows how to explain how to "actually" write/program drum parts. I mean, there's "how to produce", "finding the right samples", "how to apply effects", but writing? Talk about lost out in the woods. I've tried a couple links on the megathread, most were expired, but I tried the Hattrixx tutorial and the drumbum site (which isn't anything written, looks mostly played and then discussed).

Way back when I was in music school, I heard of these books (that I don't know where to find) that discussed techniques/flams/paradiddles/rolls/etc and how to put them all together. But now idk where to find them.

I mean, I've tried the whole syncopated eights quarters sixteenths, and that works to a degree, but I'm finding I lack the very fundamentals of what makes a drummer actually put it all together to make art!

Does anybody know where I can find something like.....written notation that actually explains some of this??

Gillman · Post by **Gillman** » Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:08 pm

This one is actually quite good, plenty of rhythm concepts, basic but deeep as you like

A Rhythmic Vocabulary: A Musician's Guide to Understanding and Improvising with Rhythm

http://www.amazon.com/Rhythmic-Vocabula ... =pd_cp_b_0

jimmygfactory · Post by **jimmygfactory** » Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:15 pm

looks like generic ear training, but maybe I'll see if I can find an Ebook of it lol. I still have my old ear training book from college.

its easy to go the death metal route of drumming and put together a bunch of fast blasting kicks and snares. It's hard to put "fluff" in between that to make it have some space for impact, lol

jsp1979 · Post by **jsp1979** » Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:22 pm

I'm not sure if this is what you're looking for, but this video came out last week:

http://www.groove3.com/str/drumming-explained.html

There's a preview you can watch and see if it might be of interest.

Gillman · Post by **Gillman** » Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:46 pm

jimmygfactory wrote:looks like generic ear training, but maybe I'll see if I can find an Ebook of it lol. I still have my old ear training book from college.

its easy to go the death metal route of drumming and put together a bunch of fast blasting kicks and snares. It's hard to put "fluff" in between that to make it have some space for impact, lol

That one is more about the hit than the fluff, it's true. Yeah would be nice to look at something more about what's in between

jimmygfactory · Post by **jimmygfactory** » Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:47 pm

quick little update for those who got curious.

http://www.drumbook.org/

two words:

SITUATION AVERTED

Nanakai · Post by **Nanakai** » Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:13 am

http://www.amazon.com/Drum-Programming- ... e+to+drums

hungryman · Post by **hungryman** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:26 am

Just start with the Snare Drum on beats 2 and 4, and the Kick Drum on any beat or between beats. Add in some fills to transition between sections or to repeat sections, and you're set.

You can also copy drum rhythms from other songs and either use them directly, or add variation to it.

jimmygfactory · Post by **jimmygfactory** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:53 pm

hungryman wrote:Just start with the Snare Drum on beats 2 and 4, and the Kick Drum on any beat or between beats. Add in some fills to transition between sections or to repeat sections, and you're set.

You can also copy drum rhythms from other songs and either use them directly, or add variation to it.

I understand I can copy, I have seen guitar pro files with drum parts I've imported with TuxGuitar, but learning the theory will help me to expand my creativity,getting breakbeat composition on levels like Blaerg and Venetian Snares...

As far as the 2 and 4 bit, that's cool, but Idk......I feel like I have to sub-divide moreso than multiply (I'm used to doing "fast" drum composition I guess, with kick on each beat with snare on the "and" of the beat)

draz3n · Post by **draz3n** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:18 am

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I'm actually thinking about picking one of these up just to help with my natural rhythmic abilities, a little expensive, but I think it'll be worth it in the long run to developing that internal sense of rhythm so later you're able to improvise and continue writing

http://www.amazon.com/Roland-RMP-5-Prac ... ords=RMP+5 (https://www.amazon.com/dp//ref=nosim?tag=kvraudio-20)

ACTUAL Tutorials on how to compose drumset/rhythm parts