Soundbanks and Hardware Synths

[tehlord]

Maybe a Korg MS2000 or Nord Lead/Rack

There's thousands of those things out there.

[Ingonator]

All good points. Glad I asked the question. Hardware $
Definitely has it's appeal and Its good to know the blofeld set sold well. That's another one I've considered.

There is a public beta of the OS 1.16 for the Blofeld available at the Waldorf website which seems to solve most of the remaining issues.
The value you get for the money with the Blofeld is maybe the best of the current hardware synths (for both the desktop and the keyboard version). The possibility of sample import (Around 60 MB flash memory) and user wavetables (currently with a 3rd party editor) makes it even more interesting.
For the desktop version you'll need to buy the SL upgrade (99 Euros) if you want to doe sample import (which is "just" an unlock code as the memory is already built-in) and in the keyboard version this is already included.


Ingo

[Cyforce]

How many soundsets would you have to sell just to recoup the cost of the hardware to make them? Unless you found a way to borrow or rent them....I suppose if you really wanted some particular unit even selling a few soundsets would help defer the cost to some degree.....

That's a good point, but only if you really bought the synthesizer just for making a soundset for it. If you for example a musician, you logical buy hardware for producing, there would soundset work maybe just an addition.

From my experience so far, i can really say - also if a synth(doesn't matter if hard or software) with 1000+ sounds in the factory or many free sets, you still can make fresh and new sounds for them, or also very focused sets which aiming a special genre for example.

But this also belongs to the synth itself, for example Massive or VirusTI, both has such a huge potential, there you can do surely also in 5 years still new sounds with it...

For hardware synths/soundsets i think, Virus TI can bring back the buy-price, Blofeld also, Mopho hmmm don't know.
Nordlead 2 would be also an option but maybe too old - but additional sales through import function of NL2 sounds by DiscoDSP Discovery.

At the moment are there pretty less hardware synths, for which a soundset would be worth the time and effort.

[Aiynzahev]

Well we've for the following factors:

1. Popularity of the synth (number of people who own it)
2. Complexity of the synth (is it easy to program? Or too simple to really benefit from sound design?)
3. Are the user base partial to programming themselves (Analog synth owners probably only want to program their own for the most part)
4. Will I enjoy programming it and make good presets?
5. Do I want it?

After all that has been looked at I think the Virus TI is the most sensible option. Blofeld being next. Nord Lead II mayber next.

Don't the Nord Lead's have a stacking feature because they are 4 part? (I know about the NL3's stereo unison.) Some of the audio demos I've heard have been in a stereo field.

Mopho is really the only analog I can think of complex enough to make it work.

[Teksonik]

How many soundsets would you have to sell just to recoup the cost of the hardware to make them? Unless you found a way to borrow or rent them....I suppose if you really wanted some particular unit even selling a few soundsets would help defer the cost to some degree.....

That's a good point, but only if you really bought the synthesizer just for making a soundset for it. If you for example a musician, you logical buy hardware for producing, there would soundset work maybe just an addition.

I've been thinking for a little while now about making sound-banks for hardware.

Well there's no indication whether it was for profit or fun. Which is why I brought up the point if he's just doing it for profit then he'd have to sell quite a few just to make up for the cost of the unit.....unless like I said he could borrow or rent the hardware.......

I also said:

I suppose if you really wanted some particular unit even selling a few soundsets would help defer the cost to some degree...

Which covers your "you logical buy hardware for producing" point.........

[Synth Buddha]

I would have thought you guys would sell more Largo soundsets than soundsets for the Blofeld, as Eric from JRRshop.com says Largo outsells Blofeld by a factor of 10 to 1... I wouldn't be surprised if that was representative of overall sales figures, as the dealers I know claim that hardware synths - especially those targeting the market that the Blofeld does - really aren't selling very well at all these days.

[darsho]

Hi guys

I've been thinking for a little while now about making sound-banks for hardware.

We have the usual suspects, the Virus TI and JP8000.

What hardware, digital or analog do you all have that you think you'd love to have more sound-banks for? (of course it needs patch-bank memory)

I thought the Mopho would be a good one because it's so complex and I'm assuming the same presets can be used on Tetra?

Another was was the Novation Nova and maybe even the UltraNova as I've not hear anything much for it yet.

Sami

Maybe Synths that are not hands on, so it is hard to programm patches ?

JP800 for example, I cannot see how somebody would buy a soundbanks for it, that synth is completely hands on, so it is very easy to make your own sounds.
Maybe that's just me.

I guess you would always find buyers for soundbanks for workstations, btw.
Like Fantom, Mox, Kronos and the likes. People that have the money to buy such synths usually have cash enough to buy some more sounds for it as well.

btw, Hardware resells for the price you buy it, if it is from the second hand market.
I never lost any money when I sold one of my hadrware synths again.
I usually get them second hand and they sell for about the same price once I get tired of them.

[tehlord]

JP800 for example, I cannot see how somebody would buy a soundbanks for it, that synth is completely hands on, so it is very easy to make your own sounds.
Maybe that's just me.

There's a large percentage of people that buy synths like that because they think the mere act of buying it turns them into BT/Oakenfold/Guetta or whoever holds their fascination this week. Same deal with the Virus.