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osiris · Post by **osiris** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:26 pm

Farley, is there nowhere you can go and demo it? Call some music stores. I played with Omni at Guitar Center and you just can't know until you play with it.

dalor · Post by **dalor** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:47 pm

What Osiris said. Omnisphere contains both VA and sample player engine, features are very powerful, far beyond a 'simple preset player'. Just create patches from scratch if you love sound design, it's sometimes even faster than browsing for the sound you're looking for. You should have to experience it yourself before making a final decision.

osiris · Post by **osiris** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:54 pm

I played around for 20 minutes and fell in love. All the sounds I opened were AMAZING, and load time wasn't really any more than Kontakt's bigger stuff.
If I had $500.00 right now (I'd have a washer and dryer).....

FarleyCZ · Post by **FarleyCZ** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:07 pm

You're right, I should try it before, but unfortunately, I don't know about any shop in this country that'd install SW for in-shop demoing.

Wasn't there anywhere on the internet that "demo SW remotely" servis? I think I saw it once. You wrote them to prepare SW for you and they made some remote desktop stream for few minutes. That'd be cool for trying Omni. (And EW as well.)

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:29 pm

you may be speaking of try-sound.com, but its mostly or maybe even only, some of the kontakt 3rd party libraries... don't think they have omnisphere.
rsp

FarleyCZ · Post by **FarleyCZ** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:41 pm

Damn. :/

gravehill · Post by **gravehill** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:24 pm

In short: Yes, you do need Omnisphere. It's awesome.

Long version: If you need to ask whether you need something, chances are you don't. That said, Omnisphere has pretty much replaced most of the other synths in my VST folder so it actually simplifies your setup. It can't replace a sampler, though. YMMV.

FarleyCZ · Post by **FarleyCZ** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:30 pm

gravehill wrote:That said, Omnisphere has pretty much replaced most of the other synths in my VST folder so it actually simplifies your setup. It can't replace a sampler, though. YMMV.

See? That's the point. I've got plenty of synths I love, wouldn't like them to be replaced. Also my lack of good real-sampled instruments is big. But I've dreamed about Omnisphere so long, that irationally still finding way to justify it somehow.

braj · Post by **braj** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:30 pm

I thought Trillian would 'replace' more synths than it did, since it has a very strong synth engine, but it uses so much RAM resources just to run that I find myself mostly using it when i need real bass sounds. That's OK with me, but a consideration when I think of getting Omnishere. I'm only going to get it when I have a new machine with gobs of RAM, otherwise I may find myself turning to more svelte synths that are light on RAM.

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:36 pm

FarleyCZ wrote:
gravehill wrote:That said, Omnisphere has pretty much replaced most of the other synths in my VST folder so it actually simplifies your setup. It can't replace a sampler, though. YMMV.
See? That's the point. I've got plenty of synths I love, wouldn't like them to be replaced. Also my lack of good real-sampled instruments is big. But I've dreamed about Omnisphere so long, that irationally still finding way to justify it somehow.

well you know that it is you not the DAW that determines which soft synth you load

I am still running Nuendo in 32 bit mode, so I can't do too much omnisphere stuff in it.....so it hasn't replaced all of my synths......so if you are in a similar boat, it may not replace all your synths either

rsp

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:18 pm

bbaggins · Post by **bbaggins** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:44 pm

Going to Guitar Center and playing around with it is not the same as a real demo, meaning to actually use it in a real project along with other tracks.

Omnisphere's sounds are indeed very impressive when you play them alone. But figuring out how to crowbar them into a production is another matter. They're like ladeling a great big glob of alfredo sauce on your noodles and wondering where the pasta went.

Yes, Omnisphere is a fine synth engine as well as a sample player. The modulation capabilities are great. But IMO it's not superior to Zebra nor any of a dozen other popular soft synths that sell for considerably less money. As a sample player, it's less versatile than Alchemy and not even in the same league with Kontakt. What you're buying is Eric's great sound collection.

I'm glad I have Omnisphere in my toolbox. I do use it. But if I'd known back before buying it what I know now, I'd have probably spent my money elsewhere.

MFXxx · Post by **MFXxx** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:45 pm

bbaggins wrote:Omnisphere's sounds are indeed very impressive when you play them alone. But figuring out how to crowbar them into a production is another matter. They're like ladeling a great big glob of alfredo sauce on your noodles and wondering where the pasta went.

Totally disagree...it's all about proportion and your mix.

bbaggins wrote:Yes, Omnisphere is a fine synth engine as well as a sample player. The modulation capabilities are great. But IMO it's not superior to Zebra nor any of a dozen other popular soft synths that sell for considerably less money. As a sample player, it's less versatile than Alchemy and not even in the same league with Kontakt. What you're buying is Eric's great sound collection.

Personally use Omnisphere a lot more than Kontakt (and I have a lot of Instruments/Presets and still use it less. Alchemy is great for what i call stock sounds and is versatile for playing. Zebra is different and I wouldn't part with my copy, but there's still room for Omnisphere in the jungle of sound.

bbaggins wrote:I'm glad I have Omnisphere in my toolbox. I do use it. But if I'd known back before buying it what I know now, I'd have probably spent my money elsewhere.

No regrets here

dalor wrote:What Osiris said. Omnisphere contains both VA and sample player engine, features are very powerful, far beyond a 'simple preset player'. Just create patches from scratch if you love sound design, it's sometimes even faster than browsing for the sound you're looking for. You should have to experience it yourself before making a final decision.

Agree...

dont get me wrong its not perfect, but it really is more than a rompler and very versatile in my humble opinion. I can think of 3 other commercial vsts that I would happily lose rather than lose Omnisphere.

osiris · Post by **osiris** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:55 pm

I have to disagree. I can tell in 20 minutes. If I like the sounds, the plugin behaves well, I hear sounds and I think, Yes, I would definitely use this in a song. I want this.
And mind you this was with a midi keyboard, not a piano roll editor (which is my preferred method) -- who knows? Maybe it was the action of pressing the keys and hearing those lovely and sometimes unearthly sounds coming out of the speakers.

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:05 pm

Another "Do I need Omnisphere?" topic.