Android Jelly Bean still crap for audio apps.
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- KVRian
- 609 posts since 29 Jan, 2004
So they still haven't addressed the horrendous audio latency issue. Unbelievable.
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- angelboy
- 4586 posts since 21 Aug, 2001 from Larnaca, Cyprus
It's a shame because Android is such a nice OS.
- KVRAF
- 7159 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
I believe it. That's why I switched to an iPad. 
--Sean
--Sean
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 609 posts since 29 Jan, 2004
Yes it is.TristezaOrange wrote:It's a shame because Android is such a nice OS.
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- KVRer
- 6 posts since 9 Mar, 2010
They are in the process of addressing it in Jelly Bean. There was a slide about it during the "What's New in Android?" talk at Google IO. I guess you'll have to wait for that session video before you can see it yourself.
A question about it was asked in the Q&A at the end. Basically Chet was unwilling to give any hard millisecond data because the "significant improvements" they made are "very device specific". They are also continuing to work on it further.
They also added USB audio output support to Jelly Bean see:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 5&start=15
A question about it was asked in the Q&A at the end. Basically Chet was unwilling to give any hard millisecond data because the "significant improvements" they made are "very device specific". They are also continuing to work on it further.
They also added USB audio output support to Jelly Bean see:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 5&start=15
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- KVRer
- 6 posts since 9 Mar, 2010
So it looks like we lucked out, the very last question of the Android Fireside chat was about low latency audio.
Basically what was said is that they are doing a few things to improve the latency. One is the implementation of a fast mixer for OpenSL. They are trying to get the latency very low but once you get to the sub-10ms level the problems become more device dependent.
For the Galaxy Nexus with ICS latency was ~100 ms and with their changes they got it down to ~12 ms. They still want to make the latency lower than that to 10ms or lower. Not all Jelly Bean devices are showing such a dramatic improvement.
They work will not be completed with Jelly Bean, they will continue to make improvements in the next version (K).
Basically what was said is that they are doing a few things to improve the latency. One is the implementation of a fast mixer for OpenSL. They are trying to get the latency very low but once you get to the sub-10ms level the problems become more device dependent.
For the Galaxy Nexus with ICS latency was ~100 ms and with their changes they got it down to ~12 ms. They still want to make the latency lower than that to 10ms or lower. Not all Jelly Bean devices are showing such a dramatic improvement.
They work will not be completed with Jelly Bean, they will continue to make improvements in the next version (K).
- KVRAF
- 7159 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
I'm glad to hear this! I've moved to the iPad, and I am quite happy with it, but competition is great for the consumer, and I'd love to see Android more competitive in this area.bandicoot352 wrote:So it looks like we lucked out, the very last question of the Android Fireside chat was about low latency audio.
Basically what was said is that they are doing a few things to improve the latency. One is the implementation of a fast mixer for OpenSL. They are trying to get the latency very low but once you get to the sub-10ms level the problems become more device dependent.
For the Galaxy Nexus with ICS latency was ~100 ms and with their changes they got it down to ~12 ms. They still want to make the latency lower than that to 10ms or lower. Not all Jelly Bean devices are showing such a dramatic improvement.
They work will not be completed with Jelly Bean, they will continue to make improvements in the next version (K).
--Sean
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 609 posts since 29 Jan, 2004
It looks like there has been some serious improvement to audio latency. That's great news.
It would be great to see Nanostudio on the new 7 inch google tablet. Hopefully soon.
It would be great to see Nanostudio on the new 7 inch google tablet. Hopefully soon.