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zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:06 pm

darsho wrote:
djanthonyw wrote:If anymore Roland gear is going to be emulated, I think someone should do a JV-1080 or similar rompler, there are hardly any true romplers in the software world.
they are very cheap on e-bay, between 100 EUR and 150 EUR.
No need to emulate gear that is available and cheap.

some of us, I might even go as far and say many of us, use software not because it's cheaper, but because it is way more flexible and workflow wise way ahead of using the hardware version.

rsp

lionscub68 · Post by **lionscub68** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:14 pm

mumpcake beat me to this comment about copyright:
all romplers are based on a copyrighted sample set that's burned onto a ROM.

I've been wanting a Roland D50 and Yamaha CS1x emulation as well, but they are both romplers as well. So pretty much any synth built from 1988-1998 from Yamaha, Roland, or Korg won't have a VST emulation.

One exception being Korg very own M1 / Digital Legacy and Wavestation VSTs.
Smart move on their part!

Roland had a virtual sound canvas back around 2000? (not sure of the year) which was neat for about 5 minutes, before you realized the entire Sound Canvas series was a General MIDI soundset on steroids. For those not in the know, Apple contracted with Roland an incorporated a similar soundset into Mac OS (8? 9? and then OSX) for a lightweight GM soundset you'll hear when you drag-n-drop an internet-ready midi file onto Quicktime 7.

So in closing:
I wonder about the synths that are in the gray area of Rompler-dom...
What about the Roland JD-800, which has sampled analog waveforms?
Or the SH-201? or Gaia?

I just want a virtual Roland analog series; once again like Korg did with their Legacy VSTs.

Which is a healthy family: Juno 1/2, Juno 106, JX3P, Juno-6/60, Jupiter 4/6/8 (the 8 has been done already but isn't quite spot-on), and the JX8P / JX-10 / MKS-70.

Between TAL and Martin we'll have two more of these classic Rolands.

darsho · Post by **darsho** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:07 pm

zvenx wrote:
darsho wrote:
djanthonyw wrote:If anymore Roland gear is going to be emulated, I think someone should do a JV-1080 or similar rompler, there are hardly any true romplers in the software world.
they are very cheap on e-bay, between 100 EUR and 150 EUR.
No need to emulate gear that is available and cheap.
some of us, I might even go as far and say many of us, use software not because it's cheaper, but because it is way more flexible and workflow wise way ahead of using the hardware version.

rsp

interesting.
tbh, I never thought of that.

The years where I used only software, it was always because I was pretty broke and had no room for hardware.
First thing I did when I had more room and some money, was start buying me hardware gear again

I still use a couple of softies though, I got so accustomed to them in my ITB years.

But everybody has a different opinion about a good workflow and what is the most fun for him, I understand that.
I look at a computer all day at work and I am just so happy to turn on my MPC and a couple of synths in the evening, without looking at a computer screen and touching a mouse. If I had a different job, I might not mind so much, possibly.

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:22 pm

I too am always intrigued by others work flow..... and I am quite happy that apart from my acoustical/electrical instruments, and of course pre-amps and tracking compressors etc I am mostly ITB...
For me, that you can use almost unlimited instances, so easy to recall, so easy to edit stuff, so easy to bounce audio, so devoid of noise, etc etc, make for me software a better option. And to be honest, I haven't recently heard any hardware that's still available for purchase that for my taste sounds better than the software synths I own...well maybe except the studio electronics stuff, but those are want more than needs....

I live in Jamaica, and I use to really look forward to my trips to the USA to go hang out in a music store for the entire day to play hardware etc....
I can safely say for the past almost a year of visits to Guitar Center etc, my visits have become shorter and shorter, and it has now reached the point when there is no hardware in there that I really need (there will always be a want

)).

but yes my workflow is best for me, not for you and it shouldn't etc.

rsp

braj · Post by **braj** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:38 pm

I can imagine my wife's shock, horror or whatever if I had as many physical synths as I have softsynths. So for me a big part of it is to keep it on the down-low. A $100 here and there is a lot less than $1500 here and there.

anotherstephen · Post by **anotherstephen** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:22 pm

Another +1 for Linux! I've "only" got loomer aspect and yoshimi

and a Juno would be great.

JPQ · Post by **JPQ** » Sat Jun 23, 2012 1:46 am

darsho wrote:
djanthonyw wrote:If anymore Roland gear is going to be emulated, I think someone should do a JV-1080 or similar rompler, there are hardly any true romplers in the software world.
they are very cheap on e-bay, between 100 EUR and 150 EUR.
No need to emulate gear that is available and cheap.

To some me i dont have room such i think and here where i live they are more pricey and thing and all dreamers simply cannot get machine i sure...

_leras · Post by **_leras** » Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:47 am

djanthonyw wrote:If anymore Roland gear is going to be emulated, I think someone should do a JV-1080 or similar rompler, there are hardly any true romplers in the software world.

You mean like Rapture or Dimension Pro, by Cakewalk, who are Roland...?

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:54 am

zvenx wrote:
darsho wrote:
djanthonyw wrote:If anymore Roland gear is going to be emulated, I think someone should do a JV-1080 or similar rompler, there are hardly any true romplers in the software world.
they are very cheap on e-bay, between 100 EUR and 150 EUR.
No need to emulate gear that is available and cheap.
some of us, I might even go as far and say many of us, use software not because it's cheaper, but because it is way more flexible and workflow wise way ahead of using the hardware version.

rsp

+1

darsho · Post by **darsho** » Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:50 am

anotherstephen wrote:Another +1 for Linux! I've "only" got loomer aspect and yoshimi and a Juno would be great.

not sure if you know, but there are some TAL plugins for Linux already :

https://launchpad.net/kxstudio/+announcement/7288

martin_l · Post by **martin_l** » Sat Jun 23, 2012 1:21 pm

lionscub68 wrote: I'd pay handsomely for a Roland VSTi collection.

Donate button is on my web page...

lionscub68 wrote: I have been running Martin's JX8P emulation on the Mac via vfx's V-Machine software. It's awesome but next to impossible to save my personal patches in V-Machine, make any routing changes (midi or audio) in V-Machine to use in a multi-VST setup in Logic or Live, etc. So basically I've got it working as a standalone synth with no ability to save any banks. It's better than nothing. But I'd love to have it all!

I have not tried it myself with VFX, but you might be able to save single patches as sysex. In settings, you should be able to switch on sysex and select the pg8x format. When you change the patch, sysex will be sent to MIDI out, so you should be able to record that. If you play that MIDI back to the pg8x, it should load that patch.

Let me know if that works...

And, a mac version is on the way. The native (i.e. C++ and VST SDK) port is coming along well. Still trying to find some bugs in the PC version, and then I will start the MAC port.

Cheers,
Martin

djanthonyw · Post by **djanthonyw** » Sat Jun 23, 2012 1:30 pm

zvenx wrote:
darsho wrote:
djanthonyw wrote:If anymore Roland gear is going to be emulated, I think someone should do a JV-1080 or similar rompler, there are hardly any true romplers in the software world.
they are very cheap on e-bay, between 100 EUR and 150 EUR.
No need to emulate gear that is available and cheap.
some of us, I might even go as far and say many of us, use software not because it's cheaper, but because it is way more flexible and workflow wise way ahead of using the hardware version.

rsp

Exactly.

_leras wrote:
djanthonyw wrote:If anymore Roland gear is going to be emulated, I think someone should do a JV-1080 or similar rompler, there are hardly any true romplers in the software world.
You mean like Rapture or Dimension Pro, by Cakewalk, who are Roland...?

Yes, but Rapture or Dimension Pro are nothing like a real rompler in regards to sound or workflow.

electro · Post by **electro** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 1:59 pm

TAL-Uno-LX is the best Analog Synth Emulation in existence. Easily VSTI of the year with nothing else even coming close.

Spitfire31 · Post by **Spitfire31** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:31 pm

Why harping on about this rompler thing? It's been clearly explained that a Roland rompler is never going to happen, unless Roland makes it. Reason: the samples are Roland copyright.

End of story.

/Joachim

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djanthonyw wrote:
zvenx wrote:
darsho wrote:
djanthonyw wrote:If anymore Roland gear is going to be emulated, I think someone should do a JV-1080 or similar rompler, there are hardly any true romplers in the software world.
they are very cheap on e-bay, between 100 EUR and 150 EUR.
No need to emulate gear that is available and cheap.
some of us, I might even go as far and say many of us, use software not because it's cheaper, but because it is way more flexible and workflow wise way ahead of using the hardware version.

rsp
Exactly.

_leras wrote:
djanthonyw wrote:If anymore Roland gear is going to be emulated, I think someone should do a JV-1080 or similar rompler, there are hardly any true romplers in the software world.
You mean like Rapture or Dimension Pro, by Cakewalk, who are Roland...?

Yes, but Rapture or Dimension Pro are nothing like a real rompler in regards to sound or workflow.

djanthonyw · Post by **djanthonyw** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:34 pm

They don't have to be the same samples.

TAL-U-NO-LX. Uber accurate Juno 60 emulation.