omnisphere - importing your own samples

[Neon Breath]

This feature will turn Omnisphere into a Alchemy wannabe. I think it is just fine as it is now.

[filter303]

This feature is missing because Specrasonics would like you to buy their Omnisphere expanisons.

Any comment to D Midas and mellotronaut posts?

I am not looking to get in an argument with other kvr users, so I really hope that I am not arrogant with this post.

I like it when people teach me how to look things from a perspective I might not yet realized by myself. There is lot to be learned from other people. I think both D Midas and mellotronaut are right in everything they said and I truly respect their opinions. I agree with them on everything they said but I still keep my opinion about why Omnisphere don't have sample import option.

It's true that Spectrasonics has given users tons of free sounds. In fact I don't remember any other synth developer doing anything similar, at least not in the same magnitude. I am not ungrateful towards them, it's quite the opposite actually. I have told many of my friends how good synth it really is.
It's just that I like to think about these things in a realistic way without too many emotions blurring my vision. This might sometimes happen when you like a product or developer "too much".

It's also true that there is currently one expansion. But how long it stays that way?
It's a fact that there is money to be made with the extras. Be it presets, expansions, samples or whatever you want to call it. And we can be sure that the people at Spectrasonics know this.

Maybe the Moog expansion money went to charity, but it's naive to think that Spectrasonics is around for anything else but to make money. It's just a matter of time when there will be new payware expansions. Maybe I will even be the one that buys them. I got nothing against it.

They obviously have some sort of tool that allows them to import samples into Omnisphere, yet they have chosen not to give this ability to the users yet. So they don't necessarily need to change anything in Omnisphere, which means there is no extra trouble for them. They don't need to turn Omnisphere into a sampler.

I was of course aware of the missing sample import feature before I even had Omnisphere. I bought it anyway because it's not an essential feature for me. I don't know if I would import my own samples as the factory library has enough soundsources to keep me busy for a long time. Maybe simple .sfz import like Echoes in the Attic said? I just know that it's one of the most common Omnisphere feature requests I have seen in this forum. I currently use other synths when I want to mess around with my own samples. Mostly this means single cycle waveforms.

I haven't said that Omnisphere is a bad product. It can't be because I have spend my money to buy it. But I believe I hit the right spot with my guess on why this particular feature is missing. I would be more than happy if they prove me wrong by adding sample import in the next update.
I am very surprised if they don't release more expansions in the near future. This time it might not be for the charity.

I have bought many soundbanks for the synths I have, that includes Omnisphere. So I don't have anything against paying for soundbanks. I just like being realistic.

[standalone]

It's also true that there is currently one expansion. But how long it stays that way?

Omnisphere was released four years ago, maybe they are greedy, but also extremely patient guys.

Even if they release a paid expansion tomorrow (I really hope that they finally convert their ethnic libraries to Omnisphere format), thinking that they didn't include wav import just to sell an expansion four years later has no logic at all.

[standalone]

hello.

ive read at the omnisphere site that importing your own samples would be implemented in a future update. did it ever happened ?

No. Sell it and buy Alchemy instead.

If sample import is the number one feature request for Omnisphere 2, sound quality that could compete with Omnisphere is the number one feature request for Alchemy 2.

If they sort that I will finally buy the full Alchemy, right now I only have the player and a couple of sound packs.

[hcv242]

just sfz importing would be great! i wouldn't need keymap or sample editing features in omnisphere. i just thought of loading single drum shots to use it as a drum machine. there are some drum sounds in the library but they're not what i need. i would prefer my own drum shots. anyways i dont have omnisphere and i will never buy it if sample import doesnt get implemented.

[glokraw]

It's also true that there is currently one expansion. But how long it stays that way?

Omnisphere was released four years ago, maybe they are greedy, but also extremely patient guys.

Even if they release a paid expansion tomorrow (I really hope that they finally convert their ethnic libraries to Omnisphere format), thinking that they didn't include wav import just to sell an expansion four years later has no logic at all.

Greed is coveting what self, and others have, then acting to get or keep it.
Having a highly successful business and plan, is not, in itself, greedy.

In Spectrasonics case, supplying a large varied soundset, increasing it
without cost to buyers, and donating to charity, all build
good-will in the marketplace, and any business can follow suit.

Adding features years later is as normal as sunrise
Cheers

[Krakatau]

I likely didn't currently study enough all the patches, as they are or a bit customized, to figure out at the best how to included them into arrangement/production context, (except perhaps sparsely ,as suggested somewhere AFAIK)

As a tweaker and (especially) a sample designer, i regret that i cannot import any customized patches, (someone suggested sfz format whish seems an honorable compromise IMO) or just single sample

On that ground i just feel at a certain degree this huge, achieved sample library a bit frustrating because i didn't really had to create something truly personal and assume i'm not the only one these forums

Let say that in term of tweaking possibilities i don't think it will ever had anything to do with Alchemy IMHO, less features but much more effective in their focus as far as i can judge

But i would be fascinated to see how custom made samples would behave through it sophisticated granular stage or arpegiator, etc..., also to see if i could create so to say sample patches that could rise it quality to the level of some of those included in the library
This if needed in a previous stage apart from Omnisphere in the case of sfz format, that won't bother me at all and seems relevant to the fact that there's no sample editing stages within Omnisphere

My two cents, folks...

[ATS]

what about stylus rmx, can it import external samples ?

If it couldn't I wouldn't use it!

[standalone]

It's also true that there is currently one expansion. But how long it stays that way?

Omnisphere was released four years ago, maybe they are greedy, but also extremely patient guys.

Even if they release a paid expansion tomorrow (I really hope that they finally convert their ethnic libraries to Omnisphere format), thinking that they didn't include wav import just to sell an expansion four years later has no logic at all.

Greed is coveting what self, and others have, then acting to get or keep it.
Having a highly successful business and plan, is not, in itself, greedy.

In Spectrasonics case, supplying a large varied soundset, increasing it
without cost to buyers, and donating to charity, all build
good-will in the marketplace, and any business can follow suit.

Adding features years later is as normal as sunrise
Cheers

I was trying to be ironic, of course: "we are going to make lots and lots of money selling expasions for our closed system.......but why not wait four or five years, who cares?"

[Oceanviewstudio]

Personally, I do not care too much about sample import for Omnisphere! As others stated before, there is Kontakt and Alchemy, and both are very very good and they do benefit from some class third party developers of course.

I wish for The Orb to be developed more on the synth engine basis as well.

Then there is Diego, and I mean you have to admit, the man is unique and really world class. Look what Simon Stockhausen is creating, I see it on similar levels, different in some way, but equally world class in my view.

I also think, Eric is a creative King Kong - LOL, sorry, I lack a good analogy today. - I would not be astonished to learn another trick coming out of his sleeve as well. Or did anyone expect something like it when THE ORB came out? I certainly did not, and I think there is huge potential behind this idea and so many more possibilities as well.

[osiris]

What I want to know, since you can't import things - on a patch, can you choose a different sample (or whatever they use)to put in the oscillator? I know in Nexus, you can't even see the sounds so whatever is on the preset is on the preset. Is that clear?

[zvenx]

of course you can osiris........you can choose a different sample or even change from a sample to a built in oscillator (some of the editing parameters will change of course)....... this is nothing like nexus.... I guess the rompler rumour lives on.......

or build your own presets using their samples and/or oscillators..

rsp

[Krakatau]

of course you can osiris........you can choose a different sample or even change from a simple to a built in oscillator (some of the editing parameters will change of course)....... this is nothing like nexus.... I guess the rompler rumour lives on.......

rsp

As far as i could investigate, i don't think you can choose a single sample, except if the sample editing stage a choosen patch uses a single sample, but it's somehow a patch that you'd choose in the soundsource browser, not a sample

You cannot pick a single sample or another into a multisampled instrument like in a mandolin's tremolo for instance

Though they are a huge palette of treatments, there is clearly a stage in a so to say "sample editing mode" in where you don't have the ability to modify anything in the articulations that whasn't previously defined by the sound designer

In the case i would be mistaken on that point. i'll be glad to be able to tweak deeper in Omnisphere, but i doubt of it, unfortunately ...

[osiris]

I'm kind of tee'd off about Sweetwater's 'price match' guarantee. Best Service has Omnisphere for $385.00. Sweetwater has for $479.00 and I called them and asked if they would match it. At first he was - where? I told him, and he says he never heard of Best Service. I told him Best Service was British and had been around forever and I'd ordered from them before. He said, Well, they will charge you $50.00 to ship it here. I told him, no. I didn't think so, because I'd ordered before and shipping was very reasonable. He just finally said(very gruffly) NO. I can't match that price. Sure enough I go on the BS website and there it is - We charge a flat rate of 10 euros for shipping to the U.S.
Freaking idiot.
Yeah, you'll price match that.

[zvenx]

of course you can osiris........you can choose a different sample or even change from a simple to a built in oscillator (some of the editing parameters will change of course)....... this is nothing like nexus.... I guess the rompler rumour lives on.......

rsp

As far as i could investigate, i don't think you can choose a single sample, except if the sample editing stage a choosen patch uses a single sample, but it's somehow a patch that you'd choose in the soundsource browser, not a sample

You cannot pick a single sample or another into a multisampled instrument like in a mandolin's tremolo for instance

Though they are a huge palette of treatments, there is clearly a stage in a so to say "sample editing mode" in where you don't have the ability to modify anything in the articulations that whasn't previously defined by the sound designer

In the case i would be mistaken on that point. i'll be glad to be able to tweak deeper in Omnisphere, but i doubt of it, unfortunately ...

Hi, I am a bit confused.
did I suggest you choose choose a single sample from a multisampled source file?
rsp