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Lotuzia wrote:
And the Grid, Le Masque V2.0, is not for the arpeggiator, but it can be combined with it : Its an advanced exclusive modulator and therefore you can modulate what you want with it. It can morph into a simple sequencer, a double sequencer, a slide machine, a kind of event seqencer; a simple stepsequencer, a very sophisticated step sequencer, and many other things for wich we dont have yet names, but actually its much more than that : Its the open door to ways of playing music that are just new, and its only limited by your imagination.
This doesn't regard the the synth specifically but the Le Masque V2 functionality.

I'm a big fan of the Le Masque delay unit and can see why your using it as a unique modulator within your new synth. Will the next version of Le Masque be updated to operate as a midi based modulator much like CableGuys MidiShaper or Five12's Numerology? If you've adapted Le Masques functionality for Oxium to act as a modulator it would be great to see this functionality made available to modulate third party synths in the next version of Le Masque (or via Oxium itself by allowing the Le Masque V2 aspect to output midi).

Just a thought.

JM
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Teksonik wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:
Lotuzia wrote: Woman Dreams
Obviously the synth is more tangerine than orange :wink:
You're Dreaming........ :hihi:
Lol Stephen and Teksonik,

Well I confess I had a bit of this in mind when I played it, but when I asked Xavier, who is my specialist, lifetime reference and absolute grandguru when it comes to Tangerine stuff, he told me "dont ever mention that on the forums, Laurent, or the purists will cut you in 8 parts" :-o :o :shock:

So I kept a low profile, to preserve my body integrity 8)

Glad that you noticed the light influence though :tu:
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Acid Mitch wrote:
Lotuzia wrote: offering both classic instruments with a pure analog sound
Pure analogue sound from a completely digital synth ? Thats a good trick.
Indeed :wink:

So its a VA :shock:

At least its base is certainly VA
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donato wrote:
keel wrote:Is it buggy as all your other products? :?
That's inaccurate and unfair.
Don't want to fuel fire but to be fair, both Synthix and ChorX have confirmed GUI problems on some systems after emailing back and forth with Xavier directly. They cause CPU spikes and can freeze the host. I was told by Xavier these should be fixed some time in the near future.
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dalor wrote:
donato wrote:
keel wrote:Is it buggy as all your other products? :?
That's inaccurate and unfair.
Don't want to fuel fire but to be fair, both Synthix and ChorX have confirmed GUI problems on some systems after emailing back and forth with Xavier directly. They cause CPU spikes and can freeze the host. I was told by Xavier these should be fixed some time in the near future.
Maybe, this must be very rare cases, as I've never heard of them.

Anyway people will be able to test Oxium with the demo version/ I test all Xils synths with sevral hosts and have never encountered such behaviours. If demo version worls OK for almost all people, then its ok, if there are some bugs needing some fix, we'll fix them. Like I said no synth is totally totally bugfree.

Sofar our SoundDesigners and Beta Testers use a big variety of hosts/systems ( PC/Mac 32/64 bits) as well, and no such bug was reported for Oxium. Anyway as soon as we're sure that Oxium runs rock solid on all (eventually almost all) systems these ones will be fixed as well. If its not already done.
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metrosonic wrote:
Lotuzia wrote:
And the Grid, Le Masque V2.0, is not for the arpeggiator, but it can be combined with it : Its an advanced exclusive modulator and therefore you can modulate what you want with it. It can morph into a simple sequencer, a double sequencer, a slide machine, a kind of event seqencer; a simple stepsequencer, a very sophisticated step sequencer, and many other things for wich we dont have yet names, but actually its much more than that : Its the open door to ways of playing music that are just new, and its only limited by your imagination.
This doesn't regard the the synth specifically but the Le Masque V2 functionality.

I'm a big fan of the Le Masque delay unit and can see why your using it as a unique modulator within your new synth. Will the next version of Le Masque be updated to operate as a midi based modulator much like CableGuys MidiShaper or Five12's Numerology? If you've adapted Le Masques functionality for Oxium to act as a modulator it would be great to see this functionality made available to modulate third party synths in the next version of Le Masque (or via Oxium itself by allowing the Le Masque V2 aspect to output midi).

Just a thought.

JM
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Hi JM,

Well Numerology is a big program in itself ( one of the few I want a mac for tbh )

But we dont have the knowhow to make such a huge specialised program.

Besides that, Le Masque V2 handles data that cant be transcripted into midi data. It will be even more true in its next incarnations. But it is already true in this one ( and when you'll use it a bit you'll understand quickly why )

There are already tons of plugins that can output midi data in various ways. They are usefull tools, though eventually reserved for pure midi geeks, due to their worflow. Le Masque is different, it is intimately, internally tied to Oxium architecture and audio engine, and some of the things he does cant be done with continuous CC midi data.

LtZ
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Good sound, cool GUI, right price and copy protection - a lot to like about this one. Will probably get it if the demo checks out. :)

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Thanks for the rapid reply Ltz,

Fully understand everything you saying and can't wait to see the way you've integrated Le Masque technology within the forthcoming synth. I was just jumping ahead of myself ref future possibilities! By the if you do ever move over to OS X you're gonna love Numerology such a powerful midi toolset and more importantly so much fun to experiment with. ;)

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Is there a screenshot of the modulation page yet? And I'll second the good price/good copy protection mechanism :) eagerly awaiting the demo.
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Teksonik wrote: The grey one's a bit too grungy and post apocalyptic for my taste. I do love orange but even looking at the screenshot above hurts my eyes a bit. I can imagine after a three hour patch tweaking session they might be bleeding..... :P
You'd think Ichiro Toda has a death-grip patent on
changing background and font colors by numeric value input :hihi:
Could it really be that hard?

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glokraw wrote:
Teksonik wrote: The grey one's a bit too grungy and post apocalyptic for my taste. I do love orange but even looking at the screenshot above hurts my eyes a bit. I can imagine after a three hour patch tweaking session they might be bleeding..... :P
You'd think Ichiro Toda has a death-grip patent on
changing background and font colors by numeric value input :hihi:
Could it really be that hard?
Unfortunately compare the two resp. GUIs and you'll soon find out that Oxium GUI is a bit more sophisticated that Synth1, to say the least.

Also, with all due respect to those who think that Synth1 can do it all,and with whom I firmly, but friendly, disagree : Oxium is more than different soundwise, featureswise, everything_wise.
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braj wrote:Is there a screenshot of the modulation page yet? And I'll second the good price/good copy protection mechanism :) eagerly awaiting the demo.

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About modulations :

1/ The joystick is moving in real time, according to what you play.
2/ The three musical gestures : You can get a vibrato by just setting the mod amount. So one click. Same for tremoloe and autowha. Usually all the presets that use Vibrato will use the LFO1 for this. Same as Tremoloe ( LFO2 ) and AutoWha ( LFO3) wich are prewired. Prewired doesn't mean fixed and overrigid, btw, you can always change between the LFO 1/2/3 by clicking on the button above.
3/ You have two destination slots for ModWheel, Velocity, and Expression ( Expression is a group that sums Breath Controler, Polyphonic and monophonic aftertouch, so that people who have a wind controler have the same level of expressivity that those who use a keyboard with aftertouch, without having to make any modifications for each preset ) YOu also have Bend+ AND Bend- with one slot each : Its great if you want to use them for something else that pitch modulation, and even for pitch its great to have different pitch ambitus mod for each direction ( I use this very often )

4/ Then at the right you have the 6 freely assignable pairs, with centered amount ( wich means pos. or neg. modulation ) You have A LOT of destinations, including some not so common ones as all the segments of filter and amp envelopes, FX parameters, etc.

There are also a few other modulations in other parts of the GUI, like the Lfo/PWM in the Oscillator Block, some in the Mask, or the Kb/Cutoff, FilterEV/Cutoff etc etc

The info pane shows a summary of all these modulations. In this pane you can see ALL the modulations affecting different core modulaes like the pitch, the VCA, the Filters, etc etc. Very pedagogic, and very usefull if you want to understand a patch quickly and adapt it to context.

LtZ
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glokraw wrote:
Teksonik wrote: The grey one's a bit too grungy and post apocalyptic for my taste. I do love orange but even looking at the screenshot above hurts my eyes a bit. I can imagine after a three hour patch tweaking session they might be bleeding..... :P
You'd think Ichiro Toda has a death-grip patent on
changing background and font colors by numeric value input :hihi:
Could it really be that hard?
To do that I think the gui would need to be vector based and it isn't. So yes, it probably would be. On the other hand I'm sure it's not beyond the realms of possibility for there to be other skins maybe some time in the future?

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The brown skin is much better, has a lot of Olga elements in it.

How much is it...havent seen a price mentioned yet.

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glokraw wrote:
Teksonik wrote: The grey one's a bit too grungy and post apocalyptic for my taste. I do love orange but even looking at the screenshot above hurts my eyes a bit. I can imagine after a three hour patch tweaking session they might be bleeding..... :P
You'd think Ichiro Toda has a death-grip patent on
changing background and font colors by numeric value input :hihi:
Could it really be that hard?

I was hoping for something like this:

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Yes it's horribly boring but this is the color I would choose for patch programming sessions that might be hours long. Very little eye strain. Then you could always switch back to the orange when using Oxium for composition.

But it is what it is........would be nice to have a wider choice of colors using the main non apocalyptic GUI. :)
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