KVR Audio

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:47 pm

IrionDaRonin wrote:
fmr wrote:
IrionDaRonin wrote:And still one of the richest companies in the world...

Good luck with it, man.
???
What thing didn't you understand?

The "still one of the richest companies in the world". What's the meaning of that in the current context and situation?

koolkeys · Post by **koolkeys** » Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:59 pm

fmr wrote:
IrionDaRonin wrote:
fmr wrote:
IrionDaRonin wrote:And still one of the richest companies in the world...

Good luck with it, man.
???
What thing didn't you understand?
The "still one of the richest companies in the world". What's the meaning of that in the current context and situation?

I'm sure you already know it was just a pointless anti-MS jab. It's cool to do that, ya know? Seeing how big companies are the devil and all.

Brent

WOK · Post by **WOK** » Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:24 pm

jcschild wrote:most likely the win7 laptop has the bios set to raid or AHCI mode (required)
XP will NOT install on this period

Of course it will - you just need the drivers.
http://aps2.toshiba-tro.de/kb0/TSB85017Z0000R01.htm

and as mentioned doubtful the laptop has drivers for XP but most dirvers (intel chipset, video, nic can be had from the manufacturers website) things like webcam will not have drivers most likely

Look what hardware is inside. Even if the original manufacturer does not support it any more, you can google for it on other sides.

why in the world would you want XP anyway

Because you have good, old hardware like scanners, printers...you want to continue using, but there are no W7 drivers?
Or because XP runs faster then W7 because needing less resources (have a google for "windows 7 slow network / nas access)?
Or because you have a special but old software that you still need and a virtual machine does not support the hardware access?

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:03 pm

WOK wrote:
jcschild wrote:most likely the win7 laptop has the bios set to raid or AHCI mode (required)
XP will NOT install on this period
Of course it will - you just need the drivers.
http://aps2.toshiba-tro.de/kb0/TSB85017Z0000R01.htm

I just assembvled a new machine, and the BIOS came with the hard-drivers setted to AHCI. The Windows XP partition wasn't able to startup. I googled and there was an answer from the support at ASUS telling specifically to change that setting to SATA. I did that, and Windows XP booted again. Maybe that's the answer.

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:30 am

koolkeys wrote:
fmr wrote:
IrionDaRonin wrote:
fmr wrote:
IrionDaRonin wrote:And still one of the richest companies in the world...

Good luck with it, man.
???
What thing didn't you understand?
The "still one of the richest companies in the world". What's the meaning of that in the current context and situation?
I'm sure you already know it was just a pointless anti-MS jab. It's cool to do that, ya know? Seeing how big companies are the devil and all.

Brent

Actually,

Mr Balmy

is the main one that
publicly acts as if controlled by odd energy sources,
but I don't have access to the break room, only rumours

Or the Board Room

(to be fair and balanced, the linux zoo, which I visit on Tuesdays,
has over-run its keepers,
and all bets are off, when Mr Stallman wields the mic

Cheers

Throbert · Post by **Throbert** » Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:33 am

jcschild wrote:most likely the win7 laptop has the bios set to raid or AHCI mode (required)
XP will NOT install on this period

Yes it will, you have to install the driver during install at the point where it gives you the option. With XP though you can only use a 3.5 floppy to install the driver. there is a way however to slip it in with nlite, I have done it. a raid is usually set up from bios and XP has nothing to do with it.
If the bios shows your drive set to AHCI mode, you have to install the driver or the install will fail
You can change it but you will loose performance in W7 but I think you can switch it back and forth. Not so with XP If you switch it out of AHCI mode and boot XP, you will have to reinstall the driver.

DevonB · Post by **DevonB** » Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:02 pm

WOK wrote:Durin boot of WinXP setup it asks you to press a function key to load additional drivers.

That would be F6.

Devon

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:22 pm

Throbert wrote:
jcschild wrote:most likely the win7 laptop has the bios set to raid or AHCI mode (required)
XP will NOT install on this period
Yes it will, you have to install the driver during install at the point where it gives you the option. With XP though you can only use a 3.5 floppy to install the driver. there is a way however to slip it in with nlite, I have done it. a raid is usually set up from bios and XP has nothing to do with it.
If the bios shows your drive set to AHCI mode, you have to install the driver or the install will fail
You can change it but you will loose performance in W7 but I think you can switch it back and forth. Not so with XP If you switch it out of AHCI mode and boot XP, you will have to reinstall the driver.

This is strange. What driver are you referring to, and where do I look for it? Asus support explicitly stated that I had to change the status from AHCI to SATA in order to use XP. If I can use AHCI, I will glady do it.

Throbert · Post by **Throbert** » Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:04 pm

Well you could go to intel and get the AHCI driver for your particular chipset or you could go here if you wanted to use the nlite method I talked about

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:42 pm

Throbert wrote:Well you could go to intel and get the AHCI driver for your particular chipset or you could go here if you wanted to use the nlite method I talked about

I already have Windows XP installed and running. May I install he drivers with the BIOS setting at SATA, and then change it to AHCI, or does it not work that way?

Burillo · Post by **Burillo** » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:02 pm

fmr wrote:
Throbert wrote:Well you could go to intel and get the AHCI driver for your particular chipset or you could go here if you wanted to use the nlite method I talked about
I already have Windows XP installed and running. May I install he drivers with the BIOS setting at SATA, and then change it to AHCI, or does it not work that way?

I once did such a trick. it's not trivial, but it's doable. there's a registry entry somewhere that corresponds to either AHCI or default mode. you switch Windows to AHCI, and then you change BIOS to use AHCI. there are easier ways to do that, some googling shows a few alternative and less dangerous methods... anyway, back up first!

Throbert · Post by **Throbert** » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:16 pm

fmr wrote:
Throbert wrote:Well you could go to intel and get the AHCI driver for your particular chipset or you could go here if you wanted to use the nlite method I talked about
I already have Windows XP installed and running. May I install he drivers with the BIOS setting at SATA, and then change it to AHCI, or does it not work that way?

does not work that way with XP

crazed one · Post by **crazed one** » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:30 pm

fmr wrote:BTW - by mounting your HD in another system, you will probably get access to it, and recover all your files. You should do this before anything else, of course.

Or load Knoppix or similar LiveCD version of Linux. Recognizes the windows directory no prob.

DuX · Post by **DuX** » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:34 pm

jcschild wrote:most likely the win7 laptop has the bios set to raid or AHCI mode (required)
XP will NOT install on this period

Unless you install DuXP which has most of the AHCI drivers included and it's [kinda] optimised for audio and video workstation from the get go. Meaning it's very minimal. ;P MS OS just has to be minimal to work half-properly... in my humblest of opinions. [not really]

Throbert · Post by **Throbert** » Sat Jul 07, 2012 3:35 am

Hi DuX how you been, does it still have to be a retail version. Did you ever get around to finishing your 64 bit version.

Yea, DuX knows his way around XP for sure.

I Researched AHCI for post XP install and there are plenty of sights out there. all I can say is, use at your own risk.

Stupid f**king Windows!!