OXIUM -New Xils-lab synthesizer- [ Jp8 Comparison :) ]
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- KVRAF
- 2973 posts since 10 Sep, 2003 from Karlskoga, Stockholm, Sweden
I DID have a feeling that something wasn't right when you wrote that 1-10 list. It was too sensible, too polite. But now it's alright again. The Threadkiller and knight of the Orion Order has unveiled his mark! 
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- Banned
- 18651 posts since 2 Oct, 2001 from England
its not like that at all.....i just get infuriated when a preset maker constantly speaks for a company and doesnt know what he is talking about. Some clarification form the dev would be appreciated at times like this. Im really trying to give observations and helpful comments rather than be negative as i have an interest in the synth but need some advice as to if and when any changes may take place regarding various aspects i am not 100% happy with (which, after demoing it for a few days will help me decide if i am to purchase.)Crackbaby wrote:I DID have a feeling that something wasn't right when you wrote that 1-10 list. It was too sensible, too polite. But now it's alright again. The Threadkiller and knight of the Orion Order has unveiled his mark!
im not on a mission to kick anyone in the teeth or cause problems
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- KVRAF
- 2973 posts since 10 Sep, 2003 from Karlskoga, Stockholm, Sweden
well then, i take back what i said and apologize .. 
I shall crawl back into my cage to sit down and play with Oxium instead
I shall crawl back into my cage to sit down and play with Oxium instead
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- KVRian
- 609 posts since 29 Jan, 2004
Has it got a zero delay filter?
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- KVRAF
- 2973 posts since 10 Sep, 2003 from Karlskoga, Stockholm, Sweden
About the osc having one static square and no sine wave
Since the triangle and saw are affected by pulse width, having a static square lets you mix those with an non-pulsewidth'ed square. I think the sound palette you gain from that is worth the lack of sine.
Sitting here making some mad osc modulating osc modulating another osc etc i would like to have a sine wave, but since i don't, im mixing and matching the other waves instead
I found that using the secondary filter and using the bandpass modulated by keytrack can substitute the rumble you'd want from a sub osc. Sub oscs can do more than rumble of course..
On another topic, have you tried modulating the delay parameters? This is something i love to do in Diversion and DFX
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Since the triangle and saw are affected by pulse width, having a static square lets you mix those with an non-pulsewidth'ed square. I think the sound palette you gain from that is worth the lack of sine.
Sitting here making some mad osc modulating osc modulating another osc etc i would like to have a sine wave, but since i don't, im mixing and matching the other waves instead
I found that using the secondary filter and using the bandpass modulated by keytrack can substitute the rumble you'd want from a sub osc. Sub oscs can do more than rumble of course..
On another topic, have you tried modulating the delay parameters? This is something i love to do in Diversion and DFX
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 10260 posts since 19 Feb, 2004 from Paris
Thanks NielsNielzie wrote:+1Crackbaby wrote: Thank you for making this synth .... i think you nailed it! Sounds, UI and Functions .. Ace!
Very nice sounding synth indeed. Love it. I have no complaints about the GUI either. And it's very reasonably priced too for what you getAnd it has just serial nr. protection!!
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Thank you!
Glad you like it !
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 10260 posts since 19 Feb, 2004 from Paris
Yes ( like all Xils-lab synths )cyberheater wrote:Has it got a zero delay filter?
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- KVRian
- 787 posts since 15 Nov, 2005 from sweden
2 questions.Lotuzia wrote:Sorry I cant remeber themsnigelx wrote:Hey, could I get some answers or input on my earlier non-skinning questions concerning specifics about the synth? Thanks in advance. Cheers!![]()
Hmmmm I think you'd better quote yourself to reput them on the top of the pile Snigelx, cos the thread is already very long and its hard to digg in it
LtZ
What is the difference was between Glblfreq and OSC1/2freq mod destinations. I get similar results from modulating both targets
I also inquired about Amount and Width settings you might propose for smoothest Pulse PWM using Oxiums modelled OSC. I figured you might know this exact info due to being a part of the dev team. I arrived at the smoothest result Amount 14 and width of around 36 but due to the Pulse completely disappearing at either extreme it's hard to know. I thought I would ask you before I pull out a scope plugin and analyse it. Posting remotely so not able to do that just yet.
Thanks for any information.
Cheers,
Jason
- Banned
- 6129 posts since 9 Oct, 2007 from an inharmonious society
Yea I like it.Lotuzia wrote:Thanks Mcnoone, we hope you'll eventually make some presets for itmcnoone wrote:![]()
Oxium very good.
Will purchase tomorrow, and see what I can come up with.
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- KVRian
- 609 posts since 29 Jan, 2004
ThanksLotuzia wrote:Yes ( like all Xils-lab synths )cyberheater wrote:Has it got a zero delay filter?
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 10260 posts since 19 Feb, 2004 from Paris
Osc1 and 2 adress only the 2 oscillators freqs, while global adds the filter response ( so it depends on the filter settings/self osc etc )snigelx wrote:2 questions.Lotuzia wrote:Sorry I cant remeber themsnigelx wrote:Hey, could I get some answers or input on my earlier non-skinning questions concerning specifics about the synth? Thanks in advance. Cheers!![]()
Hmmmm I think you'd better quote yourself to reput them on the top of the pile Snigelx, cos the thread is already very long and its hard to digg in it
LtZ
What is the difference was between Glblfreq and OSC1/2freq mod destinations. I get similar results from modulating both targets
I also inquired about Amount and Width settings you might propose for smoothest Pulse PWM using Oxiums modelled OSC. I figured you might know this exact info due to being a part of the dev team. I arrived at the smoothest result Amount 14 and width of around 36 but due to the Pulse completely disappearing at either extreme it's hard to know. I thought I would ask you before I pull out a scope plugin and analyse it. Posting remotely so not able to do that just yet.
Thanks for any information.
Cheers,
Jason
For the PWM
1/ Its normal that the pulse disappears, its the same on real analog synths. And on many soft synths. I remember I used this on the Korgs to make some kind of sequences.
For the modulation : It depends with what you modulate it. If you use the direct semihardwired modulations located near the oscillators, they use the LFO( you can change wich LFO btw, 1/2/3 ) so it will depend on the waveform(s) selected for the LFO, its rate, if it have delay/fadein etc. But you can aslo modulate the pwm in the matrix page using envelopes, le masque etc etc.
If you modulate it with a sinus wave (using the LFO while at 0.5 you'll get the smoothest mods, and with a square the wildest.
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77 Exclusive Soundbanks for 23 synths, 8 Sound Designers, Hours of audio Demos. The Sound you miss might be there
77 Exclusive Soundbanks for 23 synths, 8 Sound Designers, Hours of audio Demos. The Sound you miss might be there
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- KVRist
- 370 posts since 12 Sep, 2003
@Kriminal
The sound you submitted is quite weird, that's why I asked Laurent to ask you what you did.
Sorry, I don't have a lot of time to write and read here at this time.
A lot of people (including you) here, gave some nice and useful comments that I must take into account for the final release (but not all will be integrated ! )
So if you just took the init patch, removed an osc, changed the wave form, modified the pulse width, opened the filter and reduced the resonance, I must admit I don't understand how you get this glitch.
That's why a screen shot of your patch could be useful (Poly/Monophonic ? How many voices unable ? Syncho between osc On/Off ? )
It may be a bug I would be glad to fix, but I need to know what happened to reproduce it and fix it !
Anyway, this glitch make me think of some CPU overload, as if the latency was very very low, but maybe I'm wrong.
BTW : Thanks for you kind and useful report, I should consider some points (especially the words of some labels).
Best regards
Xavier
The sound you submitted is quite weird, that's why I asked Laurent to ask you what you did.
Sorry, I don't have a lot of time to write and read here at this time.
A lot of people (including you) here, gave some nice and useful comments that I must take into account for the final release (but not all will be integrated ! )
So if you just took the init patch, removed an osc, changed the wave form, modified the pulse width, opened the filter and reduced the resonance, I must admit I don't understand how you get this glitch.
That's why a screen shot of your patch could be useful (Poly/Monophonic ? How many voices unable ? Syncho between osc On/Off ? )
It may be a bug I would be glad to fix, but I need to know what happened to reproduce it and fix it !
Anyway, this glitch make me think of some CPU overload, as if the latency was very very low, but maybe I'm wrong.
BTW : Thanks for you kind and useful report, I should consider some points (especially the words of some labels).
Best regards
Xavier
- KVRAF
- 2249 posts since 10 Apr, 2002 from Saint Germain en Laye, France
thank you Ingo, i downloaded the wrong file
i love the orange skin, not to much on the eyes but i must admit that i always set my screen contrast and brighteness to 20% !
my main problem is a general latency with the keyboard it does not follow me fast enough and when i tweak a knob configured with ableton there is some jump when i am very fast on the knob
i love the orange skin, not to much on the eyes but i must admit that i always set my screen contrast and brighteness to 20% !
my main problem is a general latency with the keyboard it does not follow me fast enough and when i tweak a knob configured with ableton there is some jump when i am very fast on the knob
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 10260 posts since 19 Feb, 2004 from Paris
Hi Christophe,carrieres wrote:thank you Ingo, i downloaded the wrong file![]()
i love the orange skin, not to much on the eyes but i must admit that i always set my screen contrast and brighteness to 20% !
my main problem is a general latency with the keyboard it does not follow me fast enough and when i tweak a knob configured with ableton there is some jump when i am very fast on the knob
Do you mean the virtual Oxium keyboard ? Or playing with a regular external keyboard and getting latency ?
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- KVRAF
- 9091 posts since 28 May, 2005 from Netherneverlands
I think he means the GUI reaction after turning a midi-learned knob (but I might be wrong of course). There is quite some lag there. At least on my system.Lotuzia wrote: Do you mean the virtual Oxium keyboard ? Or playing with a regular external keyboard and getting latency ?
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